22 Nov 10
Originally posted by lauseyAdvanced physics doesnt explain the universe at all, but invents words to support their speculations, postulations, and baseless therories.
Its difficult to explain the creation of the universe in plain english, because there are many words you havent heard before. (its in advanced physics)
22 Nov 10
Originally posted by twhiteheadNever said I was. They have done wonderful things for humans but also even more powerful things that could destroy us. And in fact if God does not step in soon all the bad things science has done are catching up wth us fast. Global warming is deadly serious....
Are you anti-science? Most creationists try to claim that evolution is not 'true science' or not supported by science or in some way an error of science. I don't think I've met anyone who is anti-science in general.
22 Nov 10
Originally posted by 667joeLooks like Chaz has found another convenient way to feel superior to others, though. Sad.
A person to be pitied in that he is unable to believe in things for which there is no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of a convenient means of feeling superior to others. Chaz Bufe
22 Nov 10
Originally posted by lauseyIn the spiritual life, knowledge comes to the person in 4 ways:
Referring to a book which has no independent verification to be correct does not constitute proof. You are also using it as a single source.
It is like saying, "This book is correct. Why is it correct? The book says so."
It is circular logic. You cannot use the book by itself as evidence.
1.The authorized book (scriptures), which are translations of the original knowledge, which comes to us directly from the Lord, and recieved by pure souls.
2, The living spiritual master. the orator.
3. The great sages and learned men of pure character.
4, The super soul within the heart.........realized knowledge.
When all these methods are saying the exact same thing, then you have a declaration of the truth.
23 Nov 10
Originally posted by vishvahetuCome on! It's all blather! You can't prove it comes directly from the lord especially when you can't prove there is a lord. You merely hope there is a lord.
In the spiritual life, knowledge comes to the person in 4 ways:
1.The authorized book (scriptures), which are translations of the original knowledge, which comes to us directly from the Lord, and recieved by pure souls.
2, The living spiritual master. the orator.
3. The great sages and learned men of pure character.
4, The super soul within ...[text shortened]... hen all these methods are saying the exact same thing, then you have a declaration of the truth.
23 Nov 10
Originally posted by 667joeNothing can be proved to a dishonest man, and the first requirement of the spiritual path is the quality of honesty (self honesty).... second to that is humility (not to be mistaken with mundane humility) but the humility to say God is great.
Come on! It's all blather! You can't prove it comes directly from the lord especially when you can't prove there is a lord. You merely hope there is a lord.
The Vedic knowledge is eternal, and comes to us every time the cosmos is created, and it is the same knowledge every time, because it deals with absolute knowledge.
This cosmos that we find ourselves in, is currently half way through its 311 trillion year cycle, and this current yuga will be devestated in 432,000 yrs.....but dont be alarmed, because its happened many times before.
23 Nov 10
Originally posted by vishvahetu"This cosmos that we find ourselves in, is currently half way through its 311 trillion year cycle, and this current yuga will be devestated in 432,000 yrs"
Nothing can be proved to a dishonest man, and the first requirement of the spiritual path is the quality of honesty (self honesty).... second to that is humility (not to be mistaken with mundane humility) but the humility to say God is great.
The Vedic knowledge is eternal, and comes to us every time the cosmos is created, and it is the same knowledge ...[text shortened]... ll be devestated in 432,000 yrs.....but dont be alarmed, because its happened many times before.
Have you calculated the percentage error for this? Otherwise I might doubt its credibility.
23 Nov 10
Originally posted by lauseyTheres no error, its just that i have the total perspective of the time line.
"This cosmos that we find ourselves in, is currently half way through its 311 trillion year cycle, and this current yuga will be devestated in 432,000 yrs"
Have you calculated the percentage error for this? Otherwise I might doubt its credibility.
The present yuga called Kali, is devastated in 432.000 yrs.......but the entire cosmos is not devestated, but only partially devastated and a new cycle begins, and the world is re-populated. ( this re- population happens every 4.3 billion years.)
But at the end of the 311 trillion year cycle, the entire cosmos is devastated and becomes unmanifest, only to be re-created for the zillionth time.
23 Nov 10
Originally posted by vishvahetuAt what point does religious belief like this become insanity? Is this really much different from vishvahetu thinking he's Napoleon?
Theres no error, its just that i have the total perspective of the time line.
The present yuga called Kali, is devastated in 432.000 yrs.......but the entire cosmos is not devestated, but only partially devastated and a new cycle begins, and the world is re-populated. ( this re- population happens every 4.3 billion years.)
But at the end of the 311 ...[text shortened]... tire cosmos is devastated and becomes unmanifest, only to be re-created for the zillionth time.
23 Nov 10
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Originally posted by PalynkaWhats the the big deal about a few numbers, the thing is you have no perspective of eternity, because a trillion years in the face of eternity, is a nano second divided by a zillion to the power of a zillion.
At what point does religious belief like this become insanity? Is this really much different from vishvahetu thinking he's Napoleon?
What is insane is atheists saying that everything has come about by random accident.....totally insane, and very dishonest.
23 Nov 10
Originally posted by vishvahetuLet's make the assumption that what atheists say is insane. Does that automatically prove you to be correct?
Whats the the big deal about a few numbers, the thing is you have no perspective of eternity, because a trillion years in the face of eternity, is a nano second divided by a zillion to the power of a zillion.
What is insane is atheists saying that everything has come about by random accident.....totally insane, and very dishonest.
"Atheists are dishonest and totally insane, therefore there is a teapot orbiting the Sun between Earth and Mars."
23 Nov 10
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Originally posted by vishvahetuSo surely you can tell me "why" it's insane or dishonest.
What is insane is atheists saying that everything has come about by random accident.....totally insane, and very dishonest.
People who see "design" have no clue what patterns can come about in a dynamic system by applying simple rules to random initial conditions.
For example, go here
http://www.ibiblio.org/lifepatterns/
and click the button on the left.
Write your name on the panel (connecting the letters) and click go. Or draw a straight line across the panel and click go. Simple initial conditions, simple rules, complex patterns.
23 Nov 10
Originally posted by vishvahetu"Whats the the big deal about a few numbers"
Whats the the big deal about a few numbers, the thing is you have no perspective of eternity, because a trillion years in the face of eternity, is a nano second divided by a zillion to the power of a zillion.
What is insane is atheists saying that everything has come about by random accident.....totally insane, and very dishonest.
You have been quite specific with "311 trillion year cycle", "432,000 years" and "4.3 billion years", so I am assuming the numbers are a big deal. You also show inconsistency by throwing in the word "zillion".
Zillion isn't even a number, so you saying that a trillion years is a nano second divided by a trillion is ludicrous.
It is no wonder why atheists as well as theists are mocking you.