Barriers to belief

Originally posted by FMF
What "other things"?

Any other thing you may have claimed on these forums.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I think the way I am acquitting myself may have more to do with your rejection of what I believe Jesus did for us on the cross, and your refusal to tell me exactly why you no longer believe it to be true.

This doesn't answer the question I asked you about how you think what you believe Jesus did for you on the cross relates to your behaviour on these last few pages since you apologized for - and undertook to stop doing - what you are still doing?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Any other thing you may have claimed on these forums.

You mean like where I live, details about my family, the job I do, the fact that I am not a Christian, the fact that I am not a Muslim, that sort of "other stuff"?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Why would it be funny if people thought you were a liar is the circumstances?

Well, I don't need it to appeal to your sense of humour, only to mine, so your question is moot and no explanation as to why it would be funny to me is going to be forthcoming.

Did the people who you claim abused you psychologically for 24 years talk to you in the way you are talking to me now?

Originally posted by FMF
This doesn't answer the question I asked you about how you think what you believe Jesus did for you on the cross relates to your behaviour on these last few pages since you apologized for - and undertook to stop doing - what you are still doing?

Oh I have stopped pressing you for answers. I simply asked Dive why he thought you were transparent if you refused to answer questions, then you jumped on the bandwagon. We are now discussing the reason why you won't answer my questions.

Originally posted by FMF
You mean like where I live, details about my family, the job I do, the fact that I am not a Christian, the fact that I am not a Muslim, that sort of "other stuff"?

No I am referring to stuff about spirituality.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Oh I have stopped pressing you for answers. I simply asked Dive why he thought you were transparent if you refused to answer questions, then you jumped on the bandwagon. We are now discussing the reason why you won't answer my questions.

You still haven't answered the question. Do you believe that what Jesus purportedly did for you "on the cross" is in some way guiding your behaviour on these last few pages?

Originally posted by FMF
Well, I don't need it to appeal to your sense of humour, only to mine, so your question is moot and no explanation as to why it would be funny to me is going to be forthcoming.

Did the people who you claim abused you psychologically for 24 years talk to you in the way you are talking to me now?

Do you think you are automatically entitled to have access to the confidences and personal revelations of other people on demand?

Originally posted by FMF
You still haven't answered the question. Do you believe that what Jesus purportedly did for you "on the cross" is in some way guiding your behaviour on these last few pages?

This is a quote someone gave me just a short while ago.

"You are not automatically entitled to have access to the confidences and personal revelations of other people on demand. " Do you recognize it?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
No I am referring to stuff about spirituality.

Examples?

If you think I might be lying - for instance - about me not being a Christian, is it that you think the truth of the matter might be that I am still a Christian? That kind of stuff?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
"You are not automatically entitled to have access to the confidences and personal revelations of other people on demand. " -FMF

Fair enough. You started Thread 170987 about it a few hours ago, so I assumed you might have wanted make some declaration - here, perhaps - about how you believe that your only hope is to put your faith in what Jesus supposedly did for you "on the cross". There is no onus on you to let that notion spill onto this thread if you don't want it to.

Originally posted by FMF
Examples?

If you think I might be lying - for instance - about me [b]not being a Christian, is it that you think the truth of the matter might be that I am still a Christian? That kind of stuff?[/b]

Or the truth of the matter might be that you truly thought what used to believe was all there was to Christianity, but in fact you have never experienced the real thing.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Do you think you are automatically entitled to have access to the confidences and personal revelations of other people on demand?

No of course not. I can but ask. If it's off limits generally or off limits because I asked it, either way it's fine by me.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Or the truth of the matter might be that you truly thought what used to believe was all there was to Christianity, but in fact you have never experienced the real thing.

I have told you over and over and over again that I truly thought what I believed when I was a Christian was real, and genuine, and sincere, and true, and longstanding, and it permeated my life. And obviously, not being a Christian anymore, I now believe that I was mistaken. I have already told you this over and over and over again. Why are you asking about the same thing repeatedly when it has already been answered?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So why are you convinced that FMF had the one true faith, because he claims it?

I'm not asking him to convince me.