Barriers to belief

Originally posted by FMF
I had a look the other day at the people that were willing to talk to you when you first got here. For all intents and purposes, none of them do anymore. Of late, I have been one of the very few posters here who could be bothered to indulge you. One wonders if your ultimate intellectual objective has been to use discourse to alienate everybody and then play an e ...[text shortened]... rate victim card before moving on to some other message board somewhere to do it all over again.

Come to think of it apart from me not many people talk to you lately.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Come to think of it apart from me not many people talk to you lately.

If you say so, Fetchmyjunk.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
The way I see it your faith can be sincere, but also sincerely wrong, as was the case with me. I had genuine faith that 'my good works' and legalism could save me. But I clearly see now my faith (as genuine as it was) was misplaced.

It was a Christian evangelic cult in South Africa. This is a website run by some who have been fortunate enough to escape. http://www.ksb-alert.com/

There is only one faith; this is scriptural. Everything else is just beliefs or error.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
It's one thing to get out of a cult but it is another thing to get the cult out of you.

You need to get some genuine Christian help. Maybe just get bonafide help. I wish you the best.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Well I thought you were forthright and transparent about your past beliefs. Clearly I was wrong.

He has been transparent. He is not you. His past experiences are not yours. He is different to you. Most people are. Grow up.

Originally posted by divegeester
There is only one faith; this is scriptural. Everything else is just beliefs or error.

So why are you convinced that FMF had the one true faith, because he claims it?

Originally posted by divegeester
He has been transparent. He is not you. His past experiences are not yours. He is different to you. Most people are. Grow up.

If he is as transparent as you claim he is why won't he share what specific 'events', 'experiences' or 'discoveries' lead to this loss of faith?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So why are you convinced that FMF had the one true faith, because he claims it?

All I have claimed is that my Christian faith felt genuine and real to me when I was a Christian. Why do you have to be so relentlessly dishonest?

Originally posted by FMF
All I have claimed is that my Christian faith felt genuine and real to me when I was a Christian. Why do you have to be so relentlessly dishonest?

Of course, so did mine, but it turned out that it was misplaced. Maybe yours was too.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Of course, so did mine, but it turned out that it was misplaced. Maybe yours was too.

Well, I'm not a Christian any more Fetchmyjunk, if that's what you're getting at, but, then again, I have never tried to disguise the fact.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
If he is as transparent as you claim he is why won't he share what specific 'events', 'experiences' or 'discoveries' lead to this loss of faith?

This question has been answered point blank countless times but you just keep ignoring the answer. Try my posts #1, 5 and 6 on page 43 of this thread, for example. You can't get much more blunt and honest answers than those.

Originally posted by FMF
This question has been answered point blank countless times but you just keep ignoring the answer. Try my posts #1, 5 and 6 on page 43 of this thread, for example. You can't get much more blunt and honest answers than those.

Saying why you won't answer a question is the same as dodging it in my book.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Saying why you won't answer a question is the same as dodging it in my book.

But at least you know exactly why I don't want to discuss it with you specifically.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
If you want to make claims about your past beliefs surely you should be prepared to back them up? That is if you want anybody to believe you.

Why should I care if you don't believe me when I tell you I used to be a Christian?

Originally posted by FMF
But at least you know exactly why I don't want to discuss it with you specifically.

Yes I do know why you claim not to want to discuss it, but I think you may also be scared of being shown up as a fraud. That is just me being brutally honest.