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@ghost-of-a-duke saidHave you seen the mini series Killer Net?
I see it more as people being multi-dimensional and only showing some of their dimensions in the virtual world, while perhaps experimenting with a few new ones.
It's like the old adage of the elephant in a dark room. Perhaps an elephant shows only his trunk in this forum and his large ears in another. Neither forum really glimpse the whole elephant.
There is al ...[text shortened]... orgiving personality, or perhaps at a good time and view me as somebody easy going and level headed.
The series is set around the lives of three students living in Brighton, UK. The students kill people that they'd like to kill in real life- but not really, you understand it's just an idea. But then it's exactly how their victim is killed.
I'm not insinuating that you are a criminal or that you want to explore criminal ideation. But I'd like to know:
Do you feel the internet is where you can explore ideas you want to peruse that wouldn't be acceptable in face to face society?
If so, why is the internet different? Because we don't see your face?
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@yo-its-me saidDid you mean to ‘quote and reply’ to me YIM?
Sonship I'm sorry this has become a conflict for you.
I hoped it would be an interesting discussion. After all the Romans were not a supreme race, they don't have the monopoly on what it means to be a person. Maybe in this time where sounds can be obsolete and a whole relationship can be enjoyed even without face to face contact; maybe it means something else to be a pers ...[text shortened]... rough projecting your fear is unclear to me. Its not working on me, if that is your aim, by the way.
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@yo-its-me saidNot seen it, but will look out for it.
Have you seen the mini series Killer Net?
The series is set around the lives of three students living in Brighton, UK. The students kill people that they'd like to kill in real life- but not really, you understand it's just an idea. But then it's exactly how their victim is killed.
I'm not insinuating that you are a criminal or that you want to explore criminal ideat ...[text shortened]... ble in face to face society?
If so, why is the internet different? Because we don't see your face?
No, I don't personally use the internet in that way, but am sure a great many do (especially if they have extreme views that they worry would not be acceptable in the real world). Anonymity certainly does empower some individuals to show a dark underbelly.
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Sonship I'm sorry this has become a conflict for you.
What conflict?
I think my submissions to this thread were meant to show how significant our words are before God. If this had nothing to do with your ideas of "being a person" maybe you need to be enlarged a bit.
I hoped it would be an interesting discussion.
Oh, the conflict is yours then?
I thought it was mine.
After all the Romans were not a supreme race, they don't have the monopoly on what it means to be a person.
I suppose the implication is that Christ's words were invented by the Romans.
No, neither Christ nor Christ's words were not invented by the Romans.
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Maybe in this time where sounds can be obsolete and a whole relationship can be enjoyed even without face to face contact; maybe it means something else to be a person.
My name is Jack Wilmore. The anonymous nature of the Internet has become a weary thing to me. It engenders too much irresponsibility.
While I don't recommend being foolish, I think more people should just indicate who they are in real life and take responsibility for things they write.
Nice to meet you yo its me. sonship is Jack Wilmore.
I live in the state of Pennsylvania of the USA now.
Basically what you see is what you get.
Or maybe it's about the words the person communicates, through typing in this forum that defines who that person is.
You do quote the Bible a lot, it gives the impression that you are familiar with it and religious.
I have related this story before here. Maybe you never heard it.
i was an unbeliever once in college. I argued a lot with two or three Christian friends. I would give a lot to hunt them down now and ask them - "WHAT did I say to you when we had all those deep arguments?"
The funny thing is I do not remember too much the things I said, or what they said in response to my arguments. For some reason the things I remember MOST are the things said from the Bible.
I imagine that other people are where I was at that time. And I wager that one day they will not remember a lot of the discussions. They will remember, if ever, when the Spirit of God spoke to them through the word of God.
I try to bring some people along the same path that I came in my journey from skeptical to a lover of Christ. That's one reason why I quote the Bible a lot.
There is something about God's word. It will not return empty. It will accomplish something.
Unfortunately, with some it will cause them to become more hardened against Jesus. Others, one day, something may come back to them in which they will realize that it is true.
You see, I really believe that behind the word is the speaking Spirit of God.
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Whether you are trying to manipulate or have some kind of power over other forum users through projecting your fear is unclear to me. Its not working on me, if that is your aim, by the way.
I am not trying to manipulate you or anyone.
Carry on.
Tell us all about being a person.
My contribution was merely to show the significance of our words before God.
Our person definitely comes out in our words.
God's Person comes out in His word.
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@sonship saidSo, if there is any honesty or sincerity at all in some of the stuff you have posted on this thread about supposedly having "made amends" for some of your behaviour, what is an example of something that you have posted that has caused you to feel "fear of God"?
I am not trying to manipulate you or anyone.
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@sonship saidOf what you post here a lot is error, so not the “spirit of god”. What hardens people, of what you post, will be the doctrine of eternal torture, your intellectual dishonesty in blankly refusing to answer on point questions and your promotion of men, e..g witness Lee.
Unfortunately, with some it will cause them to become more hardened against Jesus. Others, one day, something may come back to them in which they will realize that it is true.
You see, I really believe that behind the word is the speaking Spirit of God.
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@sonship saidI'm sure we all know theists who speak angelically to God but act in a way that is anything but godly.
Our person definitely comes out in our words.
God's Person comes out in His word.
Has their true person come out in their words? Or at the end of the day, is it what we do that truly reveals our personhood?
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I'm sure we all know theists who speak angelically to God but act in a way that is anything but godly.
The sarcasm is noted. There is not so much of "angelically" communing the heavenly Father as you imagine. On a gut level children of God may pour out their hearts to God in any and all matters of the nitty gritty of human life. Accompanied with thanksgiving and praise is good.
If you have never found like an open field where you could go in private and pour out your complaints, anxieties, concerns etc. before God (yet reverently) you are missing a vital portion of normal human life. The Psalms are excellent examples of these honest, gut level laying out ALL before God verbally.
Has their true person come out in their words? Or at the end of the day, is it what we do that truly reveals our personhood?
I don't think it is possible for one man to really completely know a person by words typed or heard only. Ie. I have no idea what you are thinking now. You have little idea of exactly what I am thinking.
And this is a good thing on one level. Complete transparency fallen sinful people seems to to be granted to us. I think that as one grows in agape love, as Jesus increases in them, God grants with such live deeper reading of people.
And there are some who have a natural gift to discern some aspects of other people. People with such a gift are valuable in fields such as psychology or counseling.
Let's not kid ourselves that we REALLY know others deeply easily or quickly.
Now God knows us each with probably something like infinite precision. That's why He in Christ can be such a "Good Shepherd" of our souls.
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@sonship saidThe man asked a simple question and you sidestepped it [because it fell in your garden of promoting mouth worship] and wrote a bunch of irrelevant baloney.
@Ghost-of-a-DukeI'm sure we all know theists who speak angelically to God but act in a way that is anything but godly.
The sarcasm is noted. There is not so much of "angelically" communing the heavenly Father as you imagine. On a gut level children of God may pour out their hearts to God in any and all matters of the nitty gritty of human life. Accompa ...[text shortened]... like infinite precision. That's why He in Christ can be such a "Good Shepherd" of our souls.
The question was Has their true person come out in their words? Or at the end of the day, is it what we do that truly reveals our personhood?
The answer, which is supported in the bible is that words in the end are meaningless. Action, and what a man does, is what counts.
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I'm sure we all know theists who speak angelically to God but act in a way that is anything but godly.
It is easy to notice the little splinter in the other guy's eye and miss the beam size log in one's own eye. Remember?
I think at some point one has to ask "Because I see these things in others does that make me one tiny bit BETTER then the object of my contempt?"
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@sonship saidAgreed.
I don't think it is possible for one man to really completely know a person by words typed or heard only.
When we strip away all the religious fluff, we are on the same page.