Originally posted by @dj2beckerThere's no one I have to convince. People who think I am justified in calling you a liar ~ with regard to your parody-of-conversation gimmicks ~ will probably have seen enough evidence of it already. And as for people who don't think I am justified in calling you a liar, I simply don't care.
If you weren't trolling you would be able to back up your claims.
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Originally posted by @fmfIf you are happy to call someone a liar without proof, so be it.
There's no one I have to convince. People who think I am justified in calling you a liar ~ with regard to your parody-of-conversation gimmicks ~ will probably have seen enough evidence of it already. And as for people who don't think I am justified in calling you a liar, I simply don't care.
Originally posted by @dj2becker"Proof" for whom? I have all the evidence I need.
If you are happy to call someone a liar without proof, so be it.
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Me : So by your reasoning everyone that utters an untruth and then says they made a tiny error is not lying?
FMF: No. Of course not. Whatever gave you that idea?
Me: So you agree there may actually be a chance the Ghost was lying?
FMF: No. I don't.
Follow up question: How do you know for sure that Ghost was not lying if you aren't able to read his mind and if it's impossible to know whether or not he deliberately gave incorrect information? If you are perfectly honest you would at least consider the possibility that he could have lied. (according to your definition of lying)
Originally posted by @dj2beckerBecause of my grown-up, joined-up, interpersonal life skills along with my language skills. Unlike you and Romans1009, I completely understood what happened on page 1 of this thread. By contrast, I cannot claim to understand 100% why you and Romans1009 behave the way you do.
How do you know for sure that Ghost was not lying if you aren't able to read his mind and if it's impossible to know whether or not he deliberately gave incorrect information? If you are perfectly honest you would at least consider the possibility that he could have lied. (according to your definition of lying)
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Originally posted by @fmfWow. So your grown-up, joined-up, interpersonal life skills along with your language skills allow you to read minds? Incredible. This should be on the national news.
Because of my grown-up, joined-up, interpersonal life skills along with my language skills. Unlike you and Romans1009, I completely understood what happened on page 1 of this thread. By contrast, I cannot claim to understand 100% why you and Romans1009 behave the way you do.
18 Apr 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerAlert the mass media, by all means ~ if you think what you've learnt on this thread and the way you've acquitted yourself intellectually are worthy of recognition.
Wow. So your grown-up, joined-up, interpersonal life skills along with your language skills allow you to read minds? Incredible. This should be on the national news.
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Originally posted by @fmfWe both know you're not a mind reader and it is impossible for you to know for sure whether or not Ghost was deliberately deceitful. And we both know that you are too proud to admit this.
Alert the mass media, by all means ~ if you think what you've learnt on this thread and the way you've acquitted yourself intellectually are worthy of recognition.
18 Apr 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerGhost was completely honest with you about his atheism on page 1 of this thread. You should read it again. What "lie" do you think he told?
We both know you're not a mind reader and it is impossible for you to know for sure whether or not Ghost was deliberately deceitful. And we both know that you are too proud to admit this.
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18 Apr 18
Originally posted by @fmfThank you. There's not a lot more one can add to that. Excluding Romans (apparently) my meaning would have been obvious to anybody following the thread with a modicum of intelligence.
Ghost of a Duke is an atheist and a theology graduate. When he says he has "no notion of divine law", it obviously means he doesn't believe there is a divine lawmaker, and - just as obviously - it does not mean that he doesn't know that such a thing as a "notion of divine law" exists.
In my life (as an atheist) I have no notion of divine law. Yes, I have studied the concept and fully accept that for theists it is life governing, but It does not feature in 'my' decision making, and at no point (ever) do I stop to consider, 'hmm, is this in accordance with God's law. - Why is there no notion, no thought, in my head of divine law? Because I do not accept the existence of a divine law giver. (Which is pretty obvious, being an atheist).
Romans may have required a simplifier, but well,..that's probably because he's simple.
18 Apr 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeAs a non-believer, and despite having no notion of divine law, do you feel you have something to learn about morality from the Sermon on the Mount and the book of Proverbs, as was suggested by another poster earlier on this thread?
In my life (as an atheist) I have no notion of divine law. Yes, I have studied the concept and fully accept that for theists it is life governing, but It does not feature in 'my' decision making, and at no point (ever) do I stop to consider, 'hmm, is this in accordance with God's law. - Why is there no notion, no thought, in my head of divine law? B ...[text shortened]... do not accept the existence of a divine law giver. (Which is pretty obvious, being an atheist).
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18 Apr 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI stated something.
We both know you're not a mind reader and it is impossible for you to know for sure whether or not Ghost was deliberately deceitful. And we both know that you are too proud to admit this.
You corrected me.
I checked.
I acknowledged you were correct and I had made an error.
Where is the deceit or possible intent to deceive in that?
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Originally posted by @fmf1.So you have seriously been defending him all this time without even being aware what the lie in question was?
Ghost was completely honest with you about his atheism on page 1 of this thread. You should read it again. What "lie" do you think he told?
2. If you and ghost are not the same person it is impossible for you to know for sure that ghost was completely honest.
18 Apr 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerThis counter-question is not an answer to the question you are purportedly replying to.
So you have seriously been defending him all this time without even being aware what the lie in question was?