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Originally posted by @romans1009Do you make any efforts to measure up as best you can?
God’s standard is perfection. No one measures up.
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Originally posted by @fmfHow do you measure up to God's standards? Do you believe your morality is impeccable as Ghost would describe his own?
In terms of intellectual integrity and sticking to certain principles when interacting with people, yes ~ I am better than some people here ~ based on my behaviour and their behaviour on this forum ~ and in my interactions with them - you for example, as an RHP poster are less honest than me, and apparently less honest than most other posters here, regardless of their religion or lack of it. As for how people are away from here, I have no idea.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI don't believe there are any "God's standards". I am aware of ancient Hebrew mythology and dogmatic Christian sanctimoniousness and hypocrisy. But there is no such thing as "sin" and the god figure you describe seems pretty incoherent and preposterous at best, as you know.
How do you measure up to God's standards?
22 Apr 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI only know Ghost of a Duke from this forum and PMs. I'd say we are probably much of a muchness in moral behaviour terms and generally cut from a similar bit of cloth.
Do you believe your morality is impeccable as Ghost would describe his own?
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Originally posted by @fmfYour Dodge is noted. That is not what I asked you.
I don't believe there are any "God's standards". I am aware of ancient Hebrew mythology and dogmatic Christian sanctimoniousness and hypocrisy. But there is no such thing as "sin" and the god figure you describe seems pretty incoherent and preposterous at best, as you know.
22 Apr 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerIt's an honest answer to what you asked me. There has been no dodge.
Your Dodge is noted. That is not what I asked you.
22 Apr 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerYes, but so what?
Have you ever lied, stolen something, used God's name in vain or looked at the opposite sex with lust before?
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Originally posted by @dj2beckerHe’s also a pool whizzer.
So, by your own admission, you are a lying, thieving, adulterous blasphemer, and yet you still think you are a good person?
22 Apr 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerYou can call me whatever you want. I have called you a liar, so you should call it how you see it.
So, by your own admission, you are a lying, thieving, adulterous blasphemer, and yet you still think you are a good person?
I have no idea what you are like away from here. Presumably what I see here is only your online dishinibition syndrome operating. I see no reason to call you a lying, thieving, adulterous blasphemer.
If your religious beliefs cause you to look at me and yourself through such a prism, then so be it. I hope it works for you and helps you to live your life in as morally sound was as you can.
But the fact that I have lied and have stolen things has nothing to do with "God's standards" because I don't believe there are any "God's standards".
Lying and stealing are acts most humans try not to do, and most are probably able to refrain from them.
Whether I do them or not - or how I feel about it - has nothing to do with any kind of god figure or any supernatuarl phenomena, including the ones you believe in.
When you talk about - or ask me - whether or not I measure up to "God's standards" what you are really talking about is whether I live up to your subjective moral standards which - hey presto - you choose to label "God's standards" because of your upbringing and experience.
You then talk about not living up to these standards of yours yourself but assure people that you are "forgiven" regardless [well, there's dogma stuff you have to think, I'll grant you that] by a supernatural being and that the whole thing is going to result in everlasting life for you come what may.
No. There are no "God's standards". There is just your highly convoluted sanctimoniousness and moral confusion.
Over the last two years, with me and Fetchmyjunk/dj2becker, most posts where I took the time to write that much and explain my thinking in such a straightforward and lay may-cards-on-the-table way, got ignored, blanked out, not responded to, and later would come questions that pretended that the long past had never existed.
The longer and more detailed the post, the more likely he was to simply not acknowledge it had ever been written.
We shall see whether he has turned over a new leaf or whether he simply ignores its content and just resorts to asking me questions I've already answered before in previous discussions.
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Originally posted by @fmfIs your pool whizzing an example of your morality?
Over the last two years, with me and Fetchmyjunk/dj2becker, most posts where I took the time to write that much and explain my thinking in such a straightforward and lay may-cards-on-the-table way, got ignored, blanked out, not responded to, and later would come questions that pretended that the long past had never existed.
The longer and more detailed the ...[text shortened]... nt and just resorts to asking me questions I've already answered before in previous discussions.
22 Apr 18
Originally posted by @romans1009Are Christians required to make any efforts to measure up as best you can?
Sure, every Christian does. But the best way to please God and refrain from sinning is to increase His Holy Spirit’s influence in your life through regular reading of the Bible and prayer.