16 Apr 18
Originally posted by @thinkofoneYou said non-profits can't get it done. They can, and they do. There are many tax-payer made programs in place and working too.
Not sure what point you're trying to make and how this relates to my post. Can you elaborate?
What do you envision other than helping where help is needed.
Originally posted by @apathistTry putting it in context of what I've been writing on the whole:
You said non-profits can't get it done. They can, and they do. There are many tax-payer made programs in place and working too.
What do you envision other than helping where help is needed.
<<If [food, clothing, shelter, health care, etc.] were being provided to every man, woman and child there wouldn't be any who do without any of those things. Yet there are many...The US has more than enough resources to make it a reality. The only thing stopping it is greed...The fact is that the non-profits can't get it done. If they could, they would have by now. >>
16 Apr 18
Originally posted by @thinkofoneYour conclusion is not supported. For analogy, obviously governments exist, and yet that doesn't stop wars from occurring, therefore governments aren't relevant to the stoppage of wars?
Try putting it in context of what I've been writing on the whole:
<<If [food, clothing, shelter, health care, etc.] were being provided to every man, woman and child there wouldn't be any who do without any of those things. Yet there are many...The US has more than enough resources to make it a reality. The only thing stopping it is greed...The fact is that the non-profits can't get it done. If they could, they would have by now. >>
Your thinking is narrow, limited, inaccurate. Kinda hateful. How many paychecks would YOU have to miss before you need help?
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukePeople can choose to reject the norms they were brought up with if they so prefer. Especially if they have no notion of absolute truth and if they believe moral truth is relative.
I have no notion of divine law but that doesn't mean my morality is a personal preference. Far from it.
Unless you think a person's conscience is governed by personal preference? (As opposed to the way they were brought up).
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Originally posted by @rajk999Remove God from the equation and you have no absolute standard for right and wrong or truth for that matter.
A decent moral law abiding atheist will be disgusted by what goes on in many churches. If you remove the things you mention, then the teachings will go the other way.
Remove God from the equation and these church people will have to learn how to live normal lives of truthfulness, honesty, hard work, self reliance, integrity and a whole long list of virtues which are in the bible but which they ignore because they are saved.
Originally posted by @apathistWhat you've posted doesn't make any sense. How does it apply to what I've been posting?
Your conclusion is not supported. For analogy, obviously governments exist, and yet that doesn't stop wars from occurring, therefore governments aren't relevant to the stoppage of wars?
Your thinking is narrow, limited, inaccurate. Kinda hateful. How many paychecks would YOU have to miss before you need help?
If I had to guess, I'd say that you've misinterpreted my point. But if you don't plainly state your point and how it relates to what I've been posting, I'd only be guessing.
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16 Apr 18
Originally posted by @romans1009Looking back, prior to that post, 'notion' was introduced by Becker.
You used the word “notion.” Here is your exact quote:
“I have no notion of divine law but that doesn't mean my morality is a personal preference. Far from it.”
That was the quote from you that I responded to.
Same banana.
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16 Apr 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeWasn’t aware Becker’s use of a word required you to use it as well.
Looking back, prior to that post, 'notion' was introduced by Becker.
Same banana.
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16 Apr 18
Originally posted by @romans1009I responded directly to this post by Becker:
Wasn’t aware Becker’s use of a word required you to use it as well.
'Without the notions of divine law and sin, morality becomes a matter of personal preference.'
Get a grip.
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeThe word 'notions' was introduced by FMF in the OP. Hence my use of the word.
Looking back, prior to that post, 'notion' was introduced by Becker.
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16 Apr 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerYes, you're right.
The word 'notions' was introduced by FMF in the OP. Hence my use of the word.
Explain to Romans how we were both using a word in the context of the thread. He might listen to you. I think he struggles with 'hence my use of the word.'
16 Apr 18
Ghost of a Duke: I have no notion of divine law but that doesn't mean my morality is a personal preference.So when you saw atheist Ghost of a Duke referring to his atheism ~ "I have no notion of divine law" ~ you genuinely thought that he was unaware that religious people obey "laws" that they believe are "divine" laws, despite him having studied theology?
Originally posted by @romans1009
You studied theology and have no notion of divine law? Are you kidding?
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16 Apr 18
Originally posted by @fmfClearly not. He just saw an opportunity to poke fun at my degree, in a thoroughly disingenuous manner.
So when you saw atheist Ghost of a Duke referring to his atheism ~ "I have no notion of divine law" ~ you genuinely thought that he was unaware that religious people obey "laws" that they believe are "divine" laws, despite him having studied theology?
16 Apr 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeThe way I see it, the only issue [with regard to this silliness on his part] is his integrity and not his ability to comprehend what you said and/or what it meant.
Clearly not. He just saw an opportunity to poke fun at my degree, in a thoroughly disingenuous manner.