31 Jul 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI think that is out in left field brother.
Unless you shun them for 'sin' that isn't sin, in my case I was shunned for not following the rules of the church, which aren't even in the Bible. According to them I was sinning by speaking to the girl before we were married.
01 Aug 17
Originally posted by @eladarJesus gave the parable of the Prodigal Son as an example of Godly love.
But Christian love is nit the same thing as worldly love. Christian love could take rhe form of shunning.
Notice, the man who was "saved" did not make so much as a peep. He just lay their dying.
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Originally posted by @kellyjayI personally could not shun anyone no matter how bad, (unless it is for the safety of my kids) because I have seen the effect that shunning has on people. Unconditional love is what conquers the sinners heart.
I don't think shunning children is ever an option, it would have to be very bad to even do it to family.
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Originally posted by @eladarFrom my experience shunning only hardens the shunned. Showing them the love of God even when you make it clear to them that you don't condone their lifestyle is far more effective in my opinion.
Shunning is not supposed to be a punishment for an offense, but a continual lifestyle choice. Once the sinning stops so should the shunning.
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01 Aug 17
Originally posted by @eladarJesus died for us while we were still sinners. The fact that we were sinners didn't mean he loved us less. I love my kids even if they are naughty, that doesn't mean I don't punish them.
If you are going to burn in hell, God's love if it is there sure isn't doing much for you.
01 Aug 17
Originally posted by @divegeesterAfter KellyJay's recent decision to start replying to my posts again, my struggle with him has now become one that is on behalf of others.
But he's not shunning you anymore and now you've probably made back on the list by challenging him. You idiot!
01 Aug 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerNever say never.
I personally could not shun anyone no matter how bad, (unless it is for the safety of my kids) because I have seen the effect that shunning has on people. Unconditional love is what conquers the sinners heart.
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Originally posted by @dj2becker1 Corinthians 5 English Standard Version (ESV)
I personally could not shun anyone no matter how bad, (unless it is for the safety of my kids) because I have seen the effect that shunning has on people. Unconditional love is what conquers the sinners heart.
5 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that is not tolerated even among pagans, for a man has his father's wife. 2 And you are arrogant! Ought you not rather to mourn? Let him who has done this be removed from among you.
3 For though absent in body, I am present in spirit; and as if present, I have already pronounced judgment on the one who did such a thing. 4 When you are assembled in the name of the Lord Jesus and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus, 5 you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord.
The point of shunning isn't to cut off but to save the person, if you notice Paul say to even
turn this person over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be
saved in the day of the Lord. This always about bringing people back to God's saving
grace, least they end up dying in their sins, not brow beat them into submission.
