15 Mar 05
Originally posted by no1marauderGod will only save people through Jesus.
I don't even think you read the Bible; just the cribnotes from your Fundamentalist cult sites. Acts 4:12 is Peter talking, not Jesus.
John 14:6: 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life: no one cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Where does it say there that YOU can know whether your saved or not ...[text shortened]... that Jesus (God) has any restrictions on who they can save? It's up to God, not you RBHILL.
The wrath of God is on all people till they come to Christ.
and I already should you in 1 John Chapter 5 that you can know that you have eternal life.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by frogstomp
Would you mind not confusing Atheism , agnostism and scepticism with anti-Catholic bigotry.
There's a huge difference with no1 marauders objection to religious based laws and the garbage trashtalk of RBHill and Darfius. who have no qualms at all about religious based laws: as long as it's THEIR religion passing them.
Guess who gave you a rec ?
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by Darfius
Nothing is wrong with traditions as long as they completely agree with the Word of God. Yet when they disagree with the Word of God, they should be promptly condemned.
Granted, however how can you then claim that Cathoilcs are condemning people to Hell ? Surely should they preach that Jesus is Lord and the only path to salvation together with promoting a sinless life, this would be sufficient for salvation ?
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by RBHILLThe wrath of God is on all people till they come to Christ.
God will only save people through Jesus.
The wrath of God is on all people till they come to Christ.
and I already should you in 1 John Chapter 5 that you can know that you have eternal life.
Where does Jesus say this in the Gospels?
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by pcaspianThey preach Mary is co-Redemptrix. So the Catholics are OK because they have a 50-50 chance of going to Heaven, and that's IF they do not think works are what get them in, and that it is only Jesus.
Originally posted by Darfius
[b]Nothing is wrong with traditions as long as they completely agree with the Word of God. Yet when they disagree with the Word of God, they should be promptly condemned.
Granted, however how can you then claim that Cathoilcs are condemning people to Hell ? Surely should they preach that Jesus is Lord and the onl ...[text shortened]... th to salvation together with promoting a sinless life, this would be sufficient for salvation ?[/b]
15 Mar 05
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Originally posted by DarfiusDarfius: " ..... They preach Mary is co-Redemptrix."
They preach Mary is co-Redemptrix. So the Catholics are OK because they have a 50-50 chance of going to Heaven, and that's IF they do not think works are what get them in, and that it is only Jesus.
Not yet, it isn't a dogma yet, dear D.
.... and maybe you should study and investigate this issue first before spouting your wisdom about this on these forums.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by ivanhoe"Not yet" speaks for itself, ivan.
Darfius: " ..... They preach Mary is co-Redemptrix."
Not yet, it isn't a dogma yet, dear D.
.... and maybe you should study and investigate this issue first before spouting your wisdom about this on these forums.
Many, many Catholics, especially in South America, worship her as Co-Redemptrix. The current pope has gone on record saying he belongs to Mary and Mary alone.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by no1marauderJohn 3:36 He who believes in the Son has eternal life; he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the WRATH of God rests upon him.(KJV)
The wrath of God is on all people till they come to Christ.
Where does Jesus say this in the Gospels?
John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's WRATH remains on him.” (NIV)
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John 3:35
the Father loves the Son, and has given all things into his hand.(KJV)
John 3:35The Father loves the Son and has placed everything in his hands. (NIV)
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeYou can probably find it online about the Bishops getting together and wanting to add Mary to the Trinity and that would make it four LOL.
Darfius: " ..... They preach Mary is co-Redemptrix."
Not yet, it isn't a dogma yet, dear D.
.... and maybe you should study and investigate this issue first before spouting your wisdom about this on these forums.
My mom is Catholic and we had the discussion on what she believes. Although she says she doesn't worship Mary she said she prays to her though.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by RBHILLWrong again, RB; that's John the Baptist speaking, not Jesus. So where does Jesus talk about the "wrath of God"?
John 3:36 He who believes in the Son has eternal life; he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the WRATH of God rests upon him.(KJV)
John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's WRATH remains on him.” (NIV)
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John 3:35
the Father loves the Son, and ...[text shortened]... is hand.(KJV)
John 3:35The Father loves the Son and has placed everything in his hands. (NIV)