15 Mar 05
Originally posted by no1marauderTo bad lots of people miss use them, The JW people use verse 10 when they come to your door and ask you what do you think that means. It is the righteousness of Christ in you that gets persecuted.
Here's some words of Jesus from Matthew 5: 3-20; find the parts where he talks about Hell or the wrath of God:
3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are the ...[text shortened]... great sin of the scribes and Pharisees, RB? That'll be my Bible Study lesson for YOU tonight.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by no1marauderJohn 3:17 For God sent the Son into the world, not to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through him.
In other words, there is no place in the Gospels where Jesus said anything about the "wrath of God". So you call yourself a Christian i.e. a follower of Christ's teachings even though you ignore his words for others. He said with God all things are possible and never said anything about the "wrath of God". YOU replace your beliefs for the words of Jesus and dare to call yourself a Christian! Amazing.
See Jesus says it is saved through him.
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John 3:18 He who believes in him is not condemned; he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
Jesus says that people without him already stand condemned.
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John 3:19 19 And this is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
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After Jesus Died and rose and is ALIVE today, God has given him the authority to bring people to God.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by RBHILLRead the WHOLE PASSAGE, RBHILL, not just what your Fundamentalist cult tells you to.
John 3:17 For God sent the Son into the world, not to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through him.
See Jesus says it is saved through him.
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John 3:18 He who believes in him is not condemned; he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
Jesus says that pe ...[text shortened]... Jesus Died and rose and is ALIVE today, God has given him the authority to bring people to God.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, and cometh not to the light, lest his works should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth the truth cometh to the light, that his works may be made manifest, that they have been wrought in God.
What does it say? It says by your works it may be manifest that they have been wrought in God. And what works is He referring to? What He spoke about on the Sermon on the Mount and all through the New Testament: charity, love and mercy to others. If you do that, you are doing Jesus' work and if you don't all your born-again blather won't mean jack; all you are is like the scribes and Pharisees and you need to be more "righteous" than them. You don't have the first clue what being a Christian is; you preach a twisted message of hellfire and damnation to replace the words of Jesus who preached love and compassion. You are no Christian, RBHILL.
And I await all those passages where Jesus spoke of Hell; you said He spoke more of Hell than of Heaven. I say you bear false witness against Jesus Himself with that bald faced lie. He used the concept of a Hell a few times in parables, but to say His message was more about Hell than Heaven is just another sick fantasy of yours. You should be ashamed.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by no1marauderThose are works of God that have gone through the person that has Jesus. You can't be saved by keeping the Law and works.
Read the WHOLE PASSAGE, RBHILL, not just what your Fundamentalist cult tells you to.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, and cometh not to the light, lest his works should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth the truth cometh to the light, that his works may be made manifest, that they have been wrought in God.
...[text shortened]... t Hell than Heaven is just another sick fantasy of yours. You should be ashamed.
Galatians 2:21 I do not nullify the grace of God; for if justification were through the law, then Christ died to no purpose.
15 Mar 05
Works Can NOT save you. When you become a Christian you do good works because it is the Holy Spirit that drives you to do them. No one is born a Christian.
Ephesians 2:8-10
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God--
9 not because of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
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And I do read the whole thing, I read the Bible more then you but that is not want saves a person, only Jesus saves you can't save yourself.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by no1marauderJesus is showing use that it is impossible to be righteous and that is way we need him to save us.
Read the WHOLE PASSAGE, RBHILL, not just what your Fundamentalist cult tells you to.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, and cometh not to the light, lest his works should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth the truth cometh to the light, that his works may be made manifest, that they have been wrought in God.
...[text shortened]... t Hell than Heaven is just another sick fantasy of yours. You should be ashamed.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by no1marauderMarauder, do you never get tired of your ceaseless baiting of the far Right Christian Gestapo? It appears that you're trying to get Darfius, etc... to do a little instrospective self analysis... always healthy, but, the response never changes. You're not even using your lawerly tricks anymore, just bagdering of the witness so to speak.
Read the WHOLE PASSAGE, RBHILL, not just what your Fundamentalist cult tells you to.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, and cometh not to the light, lest his works should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth the truth cometh to the light, that his works may be made manifest, that they have been wrought in God.
...[text shortened]... t Hell than Heaven is just another sick fantasy of yours. You should be ashamed.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by no1marauderGo to Google.com or any Priest, pastor or anyone and they will show you that jesus spoke about hell more then he did of heaven. And you are an atheist, so you truly wouldn't even know what a true Christian is. So you have no athuority to say that I am not. But God has given his believers to go and preach the Good News and if they don't then maybe they are not a true believer.
Read the WHOLE PASSAGE, RBHILL, not just what your Fundamentalist cult tells you to.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, and cometh not to the light, lest his works should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth the truth cometh to the light, that his works may be made manifest, that they have been wrought in God.
...[text shortened]... t Hell than Heaven is just another sick fantasy of yours. You should be ashamed.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by RBHILLA) I am not an atheist:
Go to Google.com or any Priest, pastor or anyone and they will show you that jesus spoke about hell more then he did of heaven. And you are an atheist, so you truly wouldn't even know what a true Christian is. So you have no athuority to say that I am not. But God has given his believers to go and preach the Good News and if they don't then maybe they are not a true believer.
B) Galatians and Ephesians are NOT Jesus' words;
C) Show me where Jesus talks more about Hell than heaven;
D) I can read the teachings of Jesus in the Gospels (has I have many times) and I can read what you post here. Comparing them you are most certainly NOT a Christian i.e. one who believes in Jesus' teachings. You believe in an entirely different religion that stresses hellfire and damnation and believes that only a privileged few will be saved. These things are directly contrary to Jesus' teachings.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by no1marauderYou have to answer my Question, so I see that you are scared to come out and answer my question and you by doing so ask me one, cum on know LOL. LOSER.
Here is my question:
When are you going to start following the teachings of Jesus, if ever?
I follow Jesus. He said He is the way and I have accepted him and he has Change my life for the Better. He says to have him take your burdens and he has taken my paranioa that satan trapped me with, which I have no more, Prasie God.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by RBHILLYour question is irrelevant to me; I don't know if there is a Heaven and even if there is, I don't know that faith in Jesus will get me there. You most certainly do NOT follow Jesus as you lie about His message as you have here by stating He talks more about Hell than Heaven. How can you lie about the words of someone you believe is God and then call yourself a Christian, RB?
You have to answer my Question, so I see that you are scared to come out and answer my question and you by doing so ask me one, cum on know LOL. LOSER.
I follow Jesus. He said He is the way and I have accepted him and he has Change my life for the Better. He says to have him take your burdens and he has taken my paranioa that satan trapped me with, which I have no more, Prasie God.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by no1marauderHow is he lying? Do you know what "weeping and gnashing of teeth" refers to?
Your question is irrelevant to me; I don't know if there is a Heaven and even if there is, I don't know that faith in Jesus will get me there. You most certainly do NOT follow Jesus as you lie about His message as you have here by stating He talks more about Hell than Heaven. How can you lie about the words of someone you believe is God and then call yourself a Christian, RB?
He ain't talkin' about a dentist appointment.