15 Mar 05
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Originally posted by DarfiusGod can judge; you can't. And He also says with God all things are possible, doesn't he? So a man cannot know how God will judge another man, can he?
He later goes on to say that His Father in Heaven judges all on the last day. He also says non-believers will be cast into Hell.
Why do you take what you like out of context, rather than embracing it as a whole?
And John 8:15 IS the point of the WHOLE story; "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone", remember? And no man could. That is what the story is about.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by no1marauderGod, lets his followers show the lost how to get salvation.
God can judge; you can't. And He also says with God all things are possible, doesn't he? So a man cannot know how God will judge another man, can he?
And John 8:15 IS the point of the WHOLE story; "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone", remember? And no man could. That is what the story is about.
Yes, with God all things are possible so Salvation is possible through him not yourself.
Read Romans 10:14-15
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by no1marauderFor John 8:15
God can judge; you can't. And He also says with God all things are possible, doesn't he? So a man cannot know how God will judge another man, can he?
And John 8:15 IS the point of the WHOLE story; "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone", remember? And no man could. That is what the story is about.
Once you see that you are a sinner in need of a savior you can be able to help the Lost.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by RBHILLIs Jesus speaking in Romans? No, he ain't. You are adding words to Jesus' own; He says with God all things are possible NO IFS ANDS OR BUTS.
God, lets his followers show the lost how to get salvation.
Yes, with God all things are possible so Salvation is possible through him not yourself.
Read Romans 10:14-15
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by no1marauderYes, all of Jesus' teachings, including the ones where He elaborates on what He said earlier, very much unlike you, who picks, chooses, and dissects what he says to comfort yourself.
Is Jesus talking in Isiah? No. So are you a Christian i.e. one who follows Christ's teachings or not?
Read the whole of what He says or not at all, otherwise you are disrespecting Him.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by no1marauder
Is Jesus speaking in Romans? No, he ain't. You are adding words to Jesus' own; He says with God all things are possible NO IFS ANDS OR BUTS.
I think the point Darf was trying to make was that all things are possible for God, but He has already stated that He won't be doing some of these. For example. Man sins against God, seperates himself from God. It is impossible for man to reach God however not for God to reach man. Thus God gives man the opportunity to come back to Him through the sacrifise of His son. God has built the bridge for you and everyone to cross, however some don't want a bridge, but a ferry, or a helicopter and now claim "What God, you can build a bridge but it is impossible for you to build a chopper ?". Nothing is impossible for God, but demanding party trick after party trick is taking the piss really.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by DarfiusDon't make me laugh. You are the one disrespecting Jesus by turning his message upside down; His message is love and charity to your brother resulting in salvation for your good works. Your message is eternal damnation for almost all of mankind but yourself and a tiny cliche who believe in an outlandish interpretation of the Bible. I don't use Jesus to "comfort myself" but I can read the words of wisdom and brotherhood without relying on cribnotes from a Fundamentalist cult.
Yes, all of Jesus' teachings, including the ones where He elaborates on what He said earlier, very much unlike you, who picks, chooses, and dissects what he says to comfort yourself.
Read the whole of what He says or not at all, otherwise you are disrespecting Him.
Luke 6:37: 37 And judge not, and ye shall not be judged: and condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: release, and ye shall be released:
That's for both you and your partner in smug, self-righteousness RB. If there is a judgment day and you wind up before Jesus you'll have a lot of explaining to do.
15 Mar 05
Originally posted by no1marauderI'm sorry, I must have missed it, where does Jesus say our good works get us into Heaven?
Don't make me laugh. You are the one disrespecting Jesus by turning his message upside down; His message is love and charity to your brother resulting in salvation for your good works. Your message is eternal damnation for almost all of mankind but yourself and a tiny cliche who believe in an outlandish interpretation of the Bible. I don't use J ...[text shortened]... there is a judgment day and you wind up before Jesus you'll have a lot of explaining to do.