FMF: Do those who have responded and who will be saved number around 8-9 million by any chance?I am not talking about your God figure setting a number. I'm talking about the Jehovah's Witnesses organisation limiting the possible number, You organisation believes and has stated that only Jehovah's Witnesses can survive "the end times" and gain "gain everlasting life". That's where I got the 8-9 million figure from. It's not a figure I am saying your God figure has set. Nothing of the sort; the 8-9 million figure is the number of people in the Jehovah's Witnesses organisation.
Originally posted by roigam
God has not set a number on those who will gain everlasting life.
Originally posted by FMFThat is correct.....at this time.
I am not talking about your God figure setting a number. I'm talking about the Jehovah's Witnesses organisation limiting the possible number, You organisation believes and has stated that only Jehovah's Witnesses can survive "the end times" and gain "gain everlasting life". That's where I got the 8-9 million figure from. It's not a figure I am saying your God fi ...[text shortened]... he sort; the 8-9 million figure is the number of people in the Jehovah's Witnesses organisation.
(Isaiah 60:22) The little one will become a thousand And the small one a mighty nation. I myself, Jehovah, will speed it up in its own time.”
So, if Jehovah puts His foot on the pedal, speeds it up, there is no limit to how many may respond and become His people.
(Acts 15:14) Symʹe·on has related thoroughly how God for the first time turned his attention to the nations to take out of them a people for his name.
08 Nov 15
Originally posted by roigamYou and your organisation believe that only members of the Jehovah's Witnesses organization can survive "the end times" and gain "everlasting life". So, what are the prospects of my neighbours - I live in a neighbourhood on the outskirts of a medium sized Indonesian city - surviving "the end times" and gaining "everlasting life"? Has your God figure communicated with them regarding the Jehovah's Witnesses organization and let them know that only its members can be "saved" by Him?
God has not set a number on those who will gain everlasting life.[...]
God created us with free will. Satan has suborned it.
08 Nov 15
Originally posted by roigamIf He "speeds it up"? Why would your God figure go slow, or fast - or slower, or faster - at different points in time? What would be the point of that?
So, if Jehovah puts His foot on the pedal, speeds it up, there is no limit to how many may respond and become His people.
Originally posted by FMFHe has set the time of the end but he wants to snatch as many as possible out of destruction's path.
If He "speeds it up"? Why would your God figure go slow, or fast - or slower, or faster - at different points in time? What would be the point of that?
(Acts 17:31) Because he has set a day on which he purposes to judge the inhabited earth in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, and he has provided a guarantee to all men by resurrecting him from the dead.”
(2 Peter 3:9) Jehovah is not slow concerning his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire anyone to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance.
He knows what day He is going to end it but He is speeding up the witnessing work in order to get the best result possible.
10 Nov 15
Originally posted by roigamSo the reason - in your view - that it's only 8-9 million who will be saved at this moment in time is because your God figure has been going slow, deliberately, have I understood you right?
He has set the time of the end but he wants to snatch as many as possible out of destruction's path.
10 Nov 15
Originally posted by roigamWhat is the purpose of God using different "speeds" at different times?
He knows what day He is going to end it but He is speeding up the witnessing work in order to get the best result possible.
Also, there was a question of mine it seems you've missed:
What are the prospects of my neighbours - I live in a neighbourhood on the outskirts of a medium sized Indonesian city - surviving "the end times" and gaining "everlasting life"? Has your God figure communicated with them regarding the Jehovah's Witnesses organization and let them know that only its members can be "saved" by Him?
Originally posted by FMFTo answer both of your posts.
What is the purpose of God using different "speeds" at different times?
Also, there was a question of mine it seems you've missed:
What are the prospects of my neighbours - I live in a neighbourhood on the outskirts of a medium sized Indonesian city - surviving "the end times" and gaining "everlasting life"? Has your God figure communicated with them regar ...[text shortened]... Jehovah's Witnesses organization and let them know that only its members can be "saved" by Him?
(Deuteronomy 32:4) The Rock, perfect is his activity, For all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness who is never unjust; Righteous and upright is he.
10 Nov 15
Originally posted by roigamSo what are the prospects of my Indonesian neighbours ~ I'm looking out the window at one of them now; she's hanging out her washing ~ of being "saved" by being a member of your organisation?
To answer both of your posts.
(Deuteronomy 32:4) The Rock, perfect is his activity, For all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness who is never unjust; Righteous and upright is he.