Originally posted by @dj2beckerWe'll see how he gets on with mine. If the only difference between "Christian morals" and other morals is that Christians are thinking about supernatural beings when they are engaged in the same conduct and actions as non-Christians, then sonship should just say so instead of hiding behind evasive slabs of not-answering-the-question text.
Neither does this answer sonships question.
This post was intended to reply to FMF.
I have examples. But I do not claim to be able to execute the last judgement.
The final judgment upon all of man's works will be conducted by Christ.
It is not always the case that a Christian can discern the difference between two ways of living. The parable of the wheat and the tares (Matt. 13:24-30) was Jesus teaching His disciples essentially this:
"In the church age you will not always be able to tell who is a follower of Me and who is not. Do not try to go into the world and forcefully separate false disciples from real ones (in the WORLD) because you will make mistakes. " [paraphrased]
This teaching is in Matthew 13:24-30. And it should give you heads up that you will not grill me to absolutely always be able to tell when there was a difference in behavior.
Do you intend to exploit the matter so to prove that there are cases in which I could not tell whether this was a man living by God or not? There is no need to ask many questions to prove that. I admit that I cannot always tell, according to experience and the teaching of Matthew 13:24-30.
Originally posted by @sonshipSo, are "Christian morals" just ordinary morals but while thinking stuff about yourself and thinking about Christ. Just say so if that's all they are.
The poster wants me to talk about behaviors unique to the Christian.
Then when it is pointed out that a non-christian can do the same, this is used to remove any sense of the uniqueness of being a follower of Jesus Christ.
I am pretty sure that that is the intention of the line of inquiry.
Originally posted by @fmfI said I have examples.
Good. What are they?
When I mention them is my choice.
Sorry, I intend to go on and on about Christian morals as TAUGHT in the document that serves our foundation for living - The New Testament.
You're not the audience though I intend to reach.
It has been a long long time since I thought to write any post for your edification.
I don't see anything from atheists as far as I can see that can compete with Jesus Christ. Nothing you propose as a philosophy do I see can compare to Jesus Christ.
I never see anything better. Maybe others see something. I see nothing as precious as Christ so as to be an alternative.
What I usually see is lawyer like word crafted questions to cause the Christian to appear as the offensive speaker, Of course all the while boasting that you're not offended in the least. Peculiar.
Good, You're not offended. Then do you want to prove that the Christian is OFFENDING?
Someone not at all offended would most likely ignore the matter any further.
That is unless you really are personally bothered that someone would dare to associate you with the negativity implied by "Satan".
The uniqueness Christian living is not so widespread.
It is precious like rarely found gems.
Furthermore we would not like to boast in ourselves. Our boast is Christ.
Now in the past when i spoke of enemies that i forgave you only used it in a twisted way to say - "Yea you kind of forgave them because you know they are bound for hell. Some forgiveness"
Should I expect that you have no more clever twists if I DID give you examples that impressed me?
Originally posted by @sonship"Christian morals" and are just regular "morals" but with "Christian" put in front of them, and beyond that it's about thoughts [and thoughtcrimes] and has basically nothing to do with behaviour, conduct and action, is that right?
I don't see anything from atheists as far as I can see that can compete with Jesus Christ. Nothing you propose as a philosophy do I see can compare to Jesus Christ.
I never see anything better. Maybe others see something. I see nothing as precious as Christ so as to be an alternative.
What I usually see is lawyer like word crafted questions to cause the ...[text shortened]... onally bothered that someone would dare to associate you with the negativity implied by "Satan".
A Christian brother was a teacher. He was learning the lesson of not defending himself but leaving his vindication up to God.
This is a true story and am impressed by this Christian's behavior in Christ.
This certain man (a servant of Christ) invited his mother to stay with him.
Some of the envious other Christian workers got word that a woman was in his house.
They brought him before them.
"We heard that there is a woman staying in your home."
The brother replied a simple "Yes."
They disciplined him by saying he could not preach anymore for a period of time until he be reformed - for having a woman stay in his house. The brother submitted without a word in his own defense. Like I said, he was learning the lesson of not ever vindicating himself but leaving such things up to God.
After a period of time the discipliners wanted to find out WHO the woman was that was staying at his home. So they brought him before them again and demanded that he tell them who the woman was.
He said "It was my mother."
You can imagine how stupid the accusers felt. They then wanted to know why the brother had not told them that the woman staying in his home was his mother.
He simply said "You never asked."
This was a man learning to live by Christ, leaving his vindication solely in the hands of God.
"Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth." - Jesus
Originally posted by @sonshipI read all this stuff twice. It's just evasion and deflection.
I don't see anything from atheists as far as I can see that can compete with Jesus Christ. Nothing you propose as a philosophy do I see can compare to Jesus Christ.
I never see anything better. Maybe others see something. I see nothing as precious as Christ so as to be an alternative.
What I usually see is lawyer like word crafted questions to cause the ...[text shortened]... onally bothered that someone would dare to associate you with the negativity implied by "Satan".
Originally posted by @fmfFMF, nearly NO QUESTION ever put by you to me on this forum with a "Right?" following it is right. It is at the point where all I have to do is go to the end of the post and look for the 'Right?" and no that it is wrong.
"Christian morals" and are just regular "morals" but with "Christian" put in front of them, and beyond that it's about thoughts [and thoughtcrimes] and has basically nothing to do with behaviour, conduct and action, is that right?
And decide which argument you want to have - the "thought crime" one or the "Christian's ain't unique" one.
You're carpet bombing.
Originally posted by @sonshipMore deflection. The question remains.
FMF, nearly NO QUESTION ever put by you to me on this forum with a [b]"Right?" following it is right. It is at the point where all I have to do is go to the end of the post and look for the 'Right?" and no that it is wrong.
And decide which argument you want to have - the thought crime one or the Christian's ain't unique one.[/b]
Originally posted by @fmfThe presence of thousands of communities as local churches on the four continents can be contrasted with your isolated, individualistic, philosophy.
More deflection. The question remains.
www.localchurches.org
You'll find many testimonies of how Christ has effected the living of the participants in the church life.
As for deflection. I lost count of the number of questions put to you that you deflected from. Lost count ages ago.