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dj2becker

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Originally posted by FMF
When I put this to you in response to your revelations about the abuse you suffered: "Well your unpleasant experience has certainly taken its toll on you in interpersonal terms as a conversationalist and as a promoter of your current beliefs manner and rhetorical tricks are like those of someone who is still trapped in a cult."

Your reply was "It's one thing ...[text shortened]... were maltreated as a child and youth in your behaviour to this day. Maybe you weren't unscathed.
I was referring to the legalism involved in a cult. If you want to interpret that as psychological abuse that's fine with me.

Ghost of a Duke

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Originally posted by dj2becker
For someone to be diagnosed as suffering from psychological abuse they need to be diagnosed with the following symptoms: "psychological trauma, including anxiety, chronic depression, or post-traumatic stress disorder." Not everyone that experiences a power imbalance or a controlling environment suffers psychological abuse. There is a power imbalance and a ...[text shortened]... nts ever complain that they suffer psychological abuse. You obviously suck at being a shrink. 😛
Come sir, I haven't insulted your profession. I haven't even mentioned french fries.

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Originally posted by dj2becker
I was referring to the legalism involved in a cult. If you want to interpret that as psychological abuse that's fine with me.
It's clearly psychological abuse. And so is the stuff the other victims talked about on that web site you told us to look at.

dj2becker

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Come sir, I haven't insulted your profession. I haven't even mentioned french fries.
Well you are a good student when you call me Sir, I'll give you that much. 😉

dj2becker

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Originally posted by FMF
It's clearly psychological abuse. And so is the stuff the other victims talked about on that web site you told us to look at.
According to FMFs definition of psychological abuse but not any dictionary or wikipedia for that matter.

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So, Fetchmyjunk/dj2becker, was the story about being in the cult in fact a made-up thing that you are now desperately trying to distance yourself from?

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Originally posted by dj2becker
According to FMFs definition of psychological abuse but not any dictionary or wikipedia for that matter.
What about the stuff the other victims talked about on that web site you told us to look at?

dj2becker

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Originally posted by FMF
So, Fetchmyjunk/dj2becker, was the story about being in the cult in fact a made-up thing that you are now desperately trying to distance yourself from?
I did not make it up, and according to all the definitions of abuse I don't think I suffered abuse. If you want to believe I was abused according to your made up definition of abuse you are welcome to your opinion.

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Originally posted by dj2becker
I did not make it up, and according to all the definitions of abuse I don't think I suffered abuse. If you want to believe I was abused according to your made up definition of abuse you are welcome to your opinion.
You described the abuse to us in some detail. You even provided corroborating evidence at that web site.

Was anybody else in your family abused by the cult or by any of its leaders?

dj2becker

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Originally posted by FMF
What about the stuff the other victims talked about on that web site you told us to look at?
Different people perceive the same setting differently, I did not perceive abuse and I am not going to pretend I did to get someone's sympathy.

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Originally posted by dj2becker
Different people perceive the same setting differently, I did not perceive abuse and I am not going to pretend I did to get someone's sympathy.
What do you make of the stuff the other victims talked about on that web site? Is it true?

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Originally posted by dj2becker
According to your definition my classroom is a situation of psychological abuse. Would you say you were psychologically abused at school or at uni or at work for that matter?
You're floundering now into absurdity.

You described a situation of psychological abuse. 'You' did that. No one else, you. - You then linked to a site that provided additional evidence of cultist abuse.

If you truly escaped such a situation without trauma then i'm pleased for you. Although your own words seem to suggest otherwise:

"It's one thing to get out of a cult but it is another thing to get the cult out of you."

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Originally posted by dj2becker
Anyone who questioned the rules of this church were excommunicated and everyone in the church believed they were going to hell and shunned them like lepers. I was born into the church and for 24 years I believed that everything they taught was the absolute truth. Parents would disown their children if they decided to leave.
What age were you when you were made aware that these threats were hanging over you?

dj2becker

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Originally posted by FMF
What do you make of the stuff the other victims talked about on that web site? Is it true?
I did not share exactly the same experiences that they did. If they were to claim that they felt abused I would believe them.

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Originally posted by dj2becker
I did not share exactly the same experiences that they did. If they were to claim that they felt abused I would believe them.
Were the things the other victims described as going on in the cult true or false?

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