Define consciousness

@secondson said
Really. Really really really?

Why?

It's the thread topic.

@fmf said
Expand upon this.

No. I just felt like saying no.

@fmf said
What has been stopping you from getting to "the heart of the matter" up to this point?

Your hair splitting prevents it.

@secondson said
Your hair splitting prevents it.

What "hair-splitting"?

@fmf said
What "stress"?

The stress of uncertainty.

Wasn't it obvious?

@secondson said
The stress of uncertainty.

Wasn't it obvious?

Do you actually believe I suffer from "stress of uncertainty"?

No, it's not obvious that you would believe such a thing.

In your view, not being certain about how to define consciousness causes me "stress"?

That's a bit strange.

@fmf said
@secondson said
I think a good definition of consciousness might be~it is what it does.

@fmf said
Why then did you say this in answer to one of my suggested definitions on page 2 of this thread:

That says what consciousness does, not what it is. The title of the thread is "define consciousness". Its definition is what it is, not what it does.

@fmf said
You have changed your mind, then?

BUMP

I can see why you have difficulty following a thread. You blend everything said into one context and lose the thought progression with regards to the intent of a particular post relative to succeeding posts.

@secondson said
How can one bear up under the stress of uncertainty? Especially about the truth.

This might be an interesting topic in and of itself.

@fmf said
So, why don't you define consciousness according to your belief?

I don't "feel" like it. 🤣

@fmf said
I think the extent to which you have been tossing out half-baked ideas, contradicting yourself or dodging the challenge is all there out in the open, and no snuck this or snuck that is involved.

How long, in this thread, have you been waiting to say that?

@secondson said
How long, in this thread, have you been waiting to say that?

You post in a similar way on virtually all threads and I have mentioned it numerous times. Did you change your mind about the validity of defining consciousness as more or less 'it is what it does'?

@secondson said
Where is the guide for consciousness? What is my consciousness telling me, relative to the truth of things, deep inside my...what? My brain?

Did you mean to use the word "consciousness" here or did you, in fact, mean "conscience"?

@fmf said
Do you actually believe I suffer from "stress of uncertainty"?

No, it's not obvious that you would believe such a thing.

In your view, not being certain about how to define consciousness causes me "stress"?

That's a bit strange.

"Do you actually believe I suffer from "stress of uncertainty"?"

Wouldn't anyone considering they don't know for a certainty what lies beyond the grave?

"No, it's not obvious that you would believe such a thing."

Believe what "thing"? That you are under "the stress of uncertainty"?

Without a doubt.

"In your view, not being certain about how to define consciousness causes me "stress"?"

No. I don't think you're stressed by that. I think you're stressed by not knowing how consciousness exists at all.

"That's a bit strange."

Yes and no.

@fmf said
Did you mean to use the word "consciousness" here or did you, in fact, mean "conscience"?

I definitely meant consciousness.

@fmf said
You post in a similar way on virtually all threads and I have mentioned it numerous times. Did you change your mind about the validity of defining consciousness as more or less 'it is what it does'?

Come on FMF. I'm not omniscient.

I doubt there are enough hours in a day to discuss the definition of consciousness with you.