Dive is fake, pt. 2

@chaney3 said
Now, if Jesus teaches change, via being born again, one would be foolish to 'claim' being born again, yet living as the 'old self'.

@caesar-salad said
I think the doctrine of rebirth comes more from Paul than Jesus, but maybe the Christians could clarify that point.

I don't recall Mister Dive claiming to be born again, but I haven't trawled through his post history.

If Dive has said that he has been born again, who are we puny dust sprites to rush the Holy Spirit? God works in His own good time, not on our schedule.

On a side note, here's an example of "the fear of God" that makes sense to me.

If one has personally come to believe that the God of the Cosmos participates in the material world, and that It is willing to change us from within, but needs our consent and invitation to do so, wouldn't that be extremely scary for some people just to consider whether or not to consent and invite that infinitely overwhelming power in, to begin Its work?

@chaney3 said
Sounds like a great reason to continue sinning then.

Just claim the Holy Spirit has not reached you yet? Sounds weak.

@chaney3 said
Exactly my point.

He is aware that he's wrong, but just shrugs his shoulders and refuses to modify it.

@caesar-salad said
How is that any skin off your nose? Were you put on Earth to police and control other people?

"Sinning" is part of a specific moral framework, distinct from any ethical considerations outside that framework, even though of course there is some overlap in behavioral results.

Also, for someone to make that act of consent and invite the Holy Spirit to begin Its trans ...[text shortened]... ormative work is an extremely courageous and humble act in itself.

Edit: And a very trusting one!

@caesar-salad said
"Mom! Bobby's staring at me!"

@divegeester
Sorry if I have misunderstood you and your intentions.

But if you really are a Son of the Adversary, it behooves us to keep you on your toes, right? 😉 JOKE!

@chaney3 said
Your "time out" post to dive on the previous page contradicts what you are saying now.

@chaney3 said
Okay, guess you're an idiot.
Carry on.

@chaney3 said
Exactly my point.

He is aware that he's wrong, but just shrugs his shoulders and refuses to modify it.

@chaney3 said
Sounds like a great reason to continue sinning then.

Just claim the Holy Spirit has not reached you yet? Sounds weak.

@suzianne said
Should he rather follow your shining example of Christianity?

@suzianne said
And what is your claim regarding the Holy Spirit? Has it reached you yet?

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