Originally posted by FMFI have stated catagorically that the word "saved" in the New Testament can be legitimately applied in three ways:
I have been saved,
I am being saved.
I will be saved.
All three senses of the word "saved" are used.
There is nothing else for you or divegeester to salvage as a great point in this.
But you have started categorically that you are already "saved". Are people here supposed to just accept this based on your assertions and what you post?
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Oh, you don't have to believe I am saved if you don't want to. No problem.
Plenty of people I've talked to don't believe there is even such a thing.
But there is because Christ spoke the truth.
Flat statement.
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeNo.
Isn't that a requirement of being a Christian?
The chief requirement for being a Christian is to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.
That He is available, alive, and that you need Him, which you do.
Now what IS definitely wildly imaginative; To assume idealistically --- "I go through life committing sins, transgressions, iniquities AND I'll never have to answer for them. I'll never be held to account for them. God did not notice. God did not hear, or see or care and will not remember."
Now that is wildly imaginative!
So consider the love of the Son of God for you that you may be saved.
08 Feb 17
Originally posted by sonshipSo, i'm to answer to a God I don't believe exits?
No.
The chief requirement for being a Christian is to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.
That He is available, alive, and that you need Him, which you do.
Now what IS definitely wildly imaginative; To assume idealistically --- [i] "I go through life committing sins, transgressions, iniquities AND I'll never have to answer for them. I'll neve ...[text shortened]... ] is wildly imaginative!
So consider the love of the Son of God for you that you may be saved.
Are you equally to be held accountable to the Yeti?
08 Feb 17
Originally posted by sonshipsonship, don't worry about all that stuff. Just declare yourself "forgiven" and "saved". And "immortal", too. All sorted.
Now what IS definitely wildly imaginative; To assume idealistically --- "I go through life committing sins, transgressions, iniquities AND I'll never have to answer for them. I'll never be held to account for them. God did not notice. God did not hear, or see or care and will not remember."
08 Feb 17
Originally posted by sonshipBut doesn't this "reasoning" about what Christ has told you is definitely going to happen apply to divegeester, and robbie carrobie, and Rajk999, just as surely as you claim it applies to you? Or are you 'extra holy' in some way?
Oh, you don't have to believe I am [b]saved if you don't want to. No problem.
Plenty of people I've talked to don't believe there is even such a thing.
But there is because Christ spoke the truth.
Flat statement.[/b]
08 Feb 17
Originally posted by robbie carrobieNonsense you say? That's a good one. The trinity concept to begin with back in Babylon was a truly bazaar made up 3 in 1 headed God thingy and then the actual pushing of this pagan belief onto others about 400 years after Jesus died and warned that such pagan beliefs and practices would be drawn into the church by wicked ones, and then to actually have it still around today with supposed normal level headed people believing it, and would actually still fall for it today...is nonsense.
Not only that God resurrected himself while he was dead, what nonsense.
Well actually back when it was accepted by the church leaders which started the whole dark age period which kept the non clergy class under foot, the poor Christians didn't have a choice in it. They either accepted it or they were killed. Then a sick fear of their church leaders wrath was there over their heads their whole life as well as being scared to death that their god would burn them in hell for eternity if they didn't believe it.
Now that is truly a wicked bucket of nonsense!!!!!