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Originally posted by FMF
What am I to do then? Pretend that I believe you?

You're "fooling" me through some pretense means nothing one way or the other.

"And there is no creature that is not manifest before Him, but all things are naked and laid bare to the eyes of Him to whom we are to give our account." (Hebrews 4:13)

Originally posted by sonship
You're "fooling" me through some pretense means nothing one way or the other.

So what is one to do? Don't you ever stand back and wonder whether or not this whole you-gotta-think-the-same-stuff as (and emulate) the likes of Eladar, sonship, Fetchmyjunk, FreakyKBH, RJHinds and whodey or-else-you're-"damned" seems like a completely ridiculous way for a supernatural being to be operating?

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
So, i'm to answer to a God I don't believe exits?

Are you equally to be held accountable to the Yeti?

The word you mean is "exist".

I would say to you that Atheism is strictly a temporary state of philosophy.
Now don't be annoyed because I give you my honest answer.

No lie can live forever. And Atheism is a temporary work of denial. In the whole scheme of things it is just a small amount of time in its existence - just a tiny blip on the screen of eternity.

I wrote this post and erased it and re-wrote it to as not to be too annoying sounding to a intelligent person who claims he just cannot believe God is though he would like to.

You should stay away from the Bible if you want to preserve this temporary state of mind - atheism.

Originally posted by sonship
The word you mean is "exist".

I would say to you that Atheism is strictly a temporary state of philosophy.
Now don't be annoyed because I give you my honest answer.

No lie can live forever. And Atheism is a temporary work of denial. In the whole scheme of things it is just a small amount of time in its existence - just a tiny blip on the screen of ...[text shortened]... should stay away from the Bible if you want to preserve this temporary state of mind - atheism.

Obliged sir. I have ignored your previous typos but will make a point of correcting you in future, by way of thanks. No man lives forever. We are all just a blip on the screen of eternity. There is nothing beyond this mortal coil. It is faith in God that is the lie, or at best a self delusion.

You should stay close to the Bible if you want to preserve this temporary state of mind - theism.

Originally posted by galveston75
The trinity concept to begin with back in Babylon was a truly bazaar made up 3 in 1 headed God thingy...

I buy all my made-up god thingies at the Truly Bazaar. 😵

-Removed-

I started the thread at your request. Remember? Where I asked you a question you REQUESTED that I start another thread.

What does my Yes or No or in fact anything else I may write do to change the presence of in the Greek text of the New Testament where "We" is used in John 14 and "Us" and "We" are used in John 17 concerning the Father and the Son?

How does my level of "conviction" about you being filled with the Holy Spirit alter that ?

How much would the answer "Yes" change John 14 and 17?
How much would the answer "No" change John 14 and 17?

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Obliged sir. I have ignored your previous typos but will make a point of correcting you in future, by way of thanks. No man lives forever. We are all just a blip on the screen of eternity. There is nothing beyond this mortal coil. It is faith in God that is the lie, or at best a self delusion.

You should stay close to the Bible if you want to preserve this temporary state of mind - theism.

No man lives forever. We are all just a blip on the screen of eternity. There is nothing beyond this mortal coil. It is faith in God that is the lie, or at best a self delusion.

Since you have never physically died you do not know.
It is delusion that you can speak authoritatively on the subject.

Subjectively, experiencially, I do not know for myself either.

However, I believe that there is Someone who can speak authoritatively on "beyond this mortal coil" as you say. And the goodness of His other words you must dislike along with the power of His deeds and words concerning resurrection from the dead.

Both present a kind of light so bright for your heart that you feel compelled to shut your heart's eyes tightly closed.

But my main point here is that concerning what awaits man in eternity you have no idea. Your experience so far only relates to this side of death.

You should stay close to the Bible if you want to preserve this temporary state of mind - theism.

What God has deposited in me goes deeper than the mind.
There is a realm deeper than the mind in man.
You may not know what this realm is yourself. But I wager that you do know that there is something more to life.

You just don't know what it is.

But I do intend to stay with the word of God. it is good for my mind yet also good for that deeper chamber in my being that hungers and thirsts for what is real.

Originally posted by sonship to Ghost of a Duke
What God has deposited in me goes deeper than the mind.

Do you think you are personally involved - instrumental, even - in your god figure's revelation of itself to Ghost of a Duke?

Originally posted by FMF
So what is one to do? Don't you ever stand back and wonder whether or not this whole you-gotta-think-the-same-stuff as (and emulate) the likes of Eladar, sonship, Fetchmyjunk, FreakyKBH, RJHinds and whodey or-else-you're-"damned" seems like a completely ridiculous way for a supernatural being to be operating?

Do you think that love and punishment are mutually exclusive ?

IE. If a person loves then that one cannot punish.
If a person punishes then that one cannot love.

You do whatever you think you need to do.
As for me, one of the things I have done is decided that with God eternal love does not mean eternal punishment cannot exist. And conversely eternal punishment does not mean eternal love does not exist.

I think the people who are stumbled by all that the Bible reveals cannot accept that an Ultimate Authority and Lover could possess these two attributes together - an ultimate love and an ultimate chastizement.

-Removed-

Trying again to insert words into my mouth?

That's sneaky. And adding the word "or" there doesn't conceal the trickery.