Divegeester's Judgement Quandry

@kellyjay said
Adding to and taking away from scripture is forbidden there are warnings
about that. We can disagree with each other, but the Word not so much.

Dive has now been warned.

@chaney3 said
Dive has now been warned.

Just to be clear, I'd like to point something out to you too. I share this issue so please
don't think I'm picking on you. Those people who killed Jesus did so while they
could see all the things He did, raising people from the dead, healing the blind, and
the lists go on and on. When Peter and John healed the lame man who went leaping
and praising God, then the chief priest forbid them to preach about Jesus.

I used to think how blind could those guys were, until someone asked me if there
were things God was attempting to show me that I was ignoring or was blind
too. We all need eyes to see, we need the grace of God to get from where we are
to where we need to be. Don't be so ready to find the faults in others when we
may share them and we are blind to them.

Do you have things that God is trying to show you, that you are missing?

@kellyjay said
Just to be clear, I'd like to point something out to you too. I share this issue so please
don't think I'm picking on you. Those people who killed Jesus did so while they
could see all the things He did, raising people from the dead, healing the blind, and
the lists go on and on. When Peter and John healed the lame man who went leaping
and praising God, then the chief pr ...[text shortened]... d we are blind to them.

Do you have things that God is trying to show you, that you are missing?

Yes, I am a Christian mess.

I am in no position to lecture anyone, but I can offer an opinion to a problem when I see it.

In Dive's case, he is rejecting the notion of hell, when hell is clearly discussed all throughout the bible.

He has a problem.

@chaney3 said
Yes, I am a Christian mess.

I am in no position to lecture anyone, but I can offer an opinion to a problem when I see it.

In Dive's case, he is rejecting the notion of hell, when hell is clearly discussed all throughout the bible.

He has a problem.

Brother take heart, in our weaknesses He is strong. He is called the Good Shepard
for a reason, just keep your eyes on Jesus He will bring you where you need to be.
🙂 We are all messes!

@chaney3 said
Yes, I am a Christian mess.

I am in no position to lecture anyone, but I can offer an opinion to a problem when I see it.

In Dive's case, he is rejecting the notion of hell, when hell is clearly discussed all throughout the bible.

He has a problem.

How can you be a “Christian mess” if you are not a Christian? Or are you a Christian?

So you are also a believer in eternal suffering?

@kellyjay said
If you have answered me I would not have always walked away thinking you didn't.
This is as close as I have ever gotten from you on this topic to actually addressing
my question, and I think its a good answer in that its honest.

According to my beliefs the only thing that matters is Jesus Christ in your life!
This means several disagreements on doctrine are meaningless ...[text shortened]... sus are on good terms, if He is in you and you in
Him all the other things will work their way out.

Well now you can make a note of my reply so you don’t forget again.

Thank you for confirming your belief that I will not be sent for hell for not believing in it.

@kellyjay said
Adding to and taking away from scripture is forbidden there are warningsabout that. We can disagree with each other, but the Word not so much.

Good job for me that I’m not taking anything away from scripture then.

@divegeester said
How can you be a “Christian mess” if you are not a Christian? Or are you a Christian?

So you are also a believer in eternal suffering?

No, I don't think I believe in hell.

I have the same problem as you, which is why I'm commenting.

If God loves us, and Jesus died for us, then maybe we're all saved somehow. Not sure how, but true love doesn't send us to an eternal hell.

Isn't God true love?

@kellyjay said
Those people who killed Jesus did so while they
could see all the things He did, raising people from the dead, healing the blind, and
the lists go on and on.

You have no evidence of this. There would have been contemporaneous accounts.

@chaney3 said
No, I don't think I believe in hell.

I have the same problem as you, which is why I'm commenting.

If this lack of belief in the "torture" thing makes divegeester a "fake Christian", then what does the same lack of belief make you?

@fmf said
If this lack of belief in the "torture" thing makes divegeester a "fake Christian", then what does the same lack of belief make you?

I never said he was a fake Christian because of the hell issue.

@chaney3 said
I never said he was a fake Christian because of the hell issue.

Are you sure you have never accused divegeester of being a "fake Christian" while citing his rejection of torturer god ideology? You are claiming you have "never" done that?

@fmf said
Are you sure you have never accused divegeester of being a "fake Christian" while citing his rejection of torturer god ideology? You are claiming you have "never" done that?

I called him a fake Christian many times, and even started a thread about it.

But it was because of his personality, in general, and how un-Christian he acts. Not because of hell.

@chaney3 said
I called him a fake Christian many times, and even started a thread about it.

But it was because of his personality, in general, and how un-Christian he acts. Not because of hell.

How can he be a "fake Christian" because of "his personality"? You mean he rubs you up the wrong way? Are you a "fake Christian" because of your "personality"?

@divegeester said
Well now you can make a note of my reply so you don’t forget again.

Thank you for confirming your belief that I will not be sent for hell for not believing in it.

We get sent to Hell for our sins, the evil and wickedness we do.