25 Mar 23
@plantermoo saidWhy divegeester doesn’t promote or start a thread on annihilationism instead of obsessively and repetitively writing that God “burns people alive for eternity.” He’s clearly, imo, trying to drive people away from God...
That doesn’t answer my question as to why divegeester doesn’t promote or start a thread on annihilationism instead of obsessively and repetitively writing that God “burns people alive for eternity.” He’s clearly, imo, trying to drive people away from God and the salvation found in Christ.
Expressing incredulity and scorn for the all-too-prevalent torturer God ideology, if anything, is going to appeal to those who find the ideology morally repulsive and an obstruction to belief ~ and not, as you suggest, "drive people away from God". You've got it exactly the wrong way around.
25 Mar 23
@plantermoo saidIf your goal is to bring people to Christ - instead of driving them away...
If your goal is to bring people to Christ - instead of driving them away - why wouldn’t you be interested in correcting what you apparently see as a flaw in Christian doctrine and promoting the much more palatable alternative of annihilationism?
Ridiculing the moral nonsense of eternal torture is not an act of driving people away unless those people are attracted by the doctrine of eternal torture and do not care for the ridicule.
25 Mar 23
@fmf saidBut he’s not “expressing incredulity and scorn for the all-too-prevalent torturer God ideology.” He’s simply repeating it over and over again. He’s not saying it’s wrong. He’s not expressing scorn for it. He’s simply repeating it over and over again.
Why divegeester doesn’t promote or start a thread on annihilationism instead of obsessively and repetitively writing that God “burns people alive for eternity.” He’s clearly, imo, trying to drive people away from God...
Expressing incredulity and scorn for the all-too-prevalent torturer God ideology, if anything, is going to appeal to those who find the ideology morally ...[text shortened]... ~ and not, as you suggest, "drive people away from God". You've got it exactly the wrong way around.
25 Mar 23
@plantermoo saidYes, he is. And he's been doing it for 15 years. Steadfastly and effectively in the face of opposition from people here who propagate the torturer God ideology.
But he’s not “expressing incredulity and scorn for the all-too-prevalent torturer God ideology.”
25 Mar 23
@fmf saidBut he doesn’t ridicule it. He just repeats that God “burns people alive for eternity” over and over and over again.
If your goal is to bring people to Christ - instead of driving them away...
Ridiculing the moral nonsense of eternal torture is not an act of driving people away unless those people are attracted by the doctrine of eternal torture and do not care for the ridicule.
It’s obvious what he’s doing - and I suspect he’ll answer for it one day.
@plantermoo saidHe’s not saying it’s wrong.
But he’s not “expressing incredulity and scorn for the all-too-prevalent torturer God ideology.” He’s simply repeating it over and over again. He’s not saying it’s wrong. He’s not expressing scorn for it. He’s simply repeating it over and over again.
Yes, he is. He's argued for years that it's morally incoherent.
He’s not expressing scorn for it.
Of course, he is.
He’s simply repeating it over and over again.
Well, things do get repeated over and over again on this forum. You have simply repeated things over and over again stretching back to 2018
25 Mar 23
@plantermoo saidI suspect he’ll answer for it one day
But he doesn’t ridicule it. He just repeats that God “burns people alive for eternity” over and over and over again.
It’s obvious what he’s doing - and I suspect he’ll answer for it one day.
In what way?
25 Mar 23
@plantermoo saidHe just repeats that God “burns people alive for eternity” over and over and over again.
But he doesn’t ridicule it. He just repeats that God “burns people alive for eternity” over and over and over again.
He doesn't claim that God “burns people alive for eternity”. He points out that there are Christians here and all around the world who believe God “burns people alive for eternity”, and he has participated in countless threads where its moral incoherence has been discussed in detail.