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Originally posted by wolfgang59He is in most of the tabloids...
Oh I'm not defining anything chum.
Just remembering some school learning from way back - wasnt Alfred known
as the originator of the Royal Navy? - and apart from being a crap pastry chef
he kept those Vikings in check!
They had great epithets back then.
Like Edward Longshanks
Can you imagine Charles III being called Charles Big Ears?
😀
However it's a system that does have possibilities...
Being named for what your most famous for... That's incentive.
Of course that did tend to lead to people being famous for being the father to, or son of, someone more famous.
Hence all the "something"son's around...
Originally posted by SuzianneMy point exactly. You seem to be using, instead, a "stretch of the imagination" that involves a "motto", "every U.S. coin", what "most Americans think" and your freestanding, unsubstantiated claim that "God gave America full right to all land clear to the Pacific Ocean". If your view is not Bible-based, on what basis are you asserting that it's valid as a Christian perspective, as opposed to being merely a patriotic, nationalistic or even a just plain jingoistic perspective?
How on earth would it be "Bible-based"?
Have you ever read the words "United States of America" in the Bible?
12 Feb 13
Originally posted by galveston75Because of the promise God made to Abraham that was past on to the tribes of Israel.
So I'll ask this again: "If God did or does bless America, why would he choose this country over another? What would be the qualifications he would look for to bestow his blessings?"
http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/node/290
12 Feb 13
Originally posted by googlefudgeYou do know that it was "Unræd" rather than "Unready", dontcha? He wasn't really turning up late with his pyjama bottoms still on and shaving foam all over his face.
How are you defining "English origins"?
My home town, for example, pre-dates the Romans...
Also one of my favourites from back then was Æthelred the Unready...
My favourite early 'English' king (not really English, alas, but close) was Penda of Mercia. Unfortunately history hasn't gifted him an epithet which has firmly stuck, but these days he's often known as Penda the Psycho...
12 Feb 13
Originally posted by avalanchethecatAs the ash is not part of the English alphabet GF used the usual English spelling.
You do know that it was "Unræd" rather than "Unready", dontcha? He wasn't really turning up late with his pyjama bottoms still on and shaving foam all over his face.
My favourite early 'English' king (not really English, alas, but close) was Penda of Mercia. Unfortunately history hasn't gifted him an epithet which has firmly stuck, but these days he's often known as Penda the Psycho...
(Although "Unraed" or even "Unread" I suppose are an alternatives)
Aethelred the Ill-Advised doesnt have the same ring to it! 😉
12 Feb 13
Originally posted by wolfgang59You're not wrong. I still always picture him (as I did as a kid) coming running out of his castle with his armour only half-on hurriedly finishing a slice of toast and mug of tea!
As the ash is not part of the English alphabet GF used the usual English spelling.
(Although "Unraed" or even "Unread" I suppose are an alternatives)
Aethelred the Ill-Advised doesnt have the same ring to it! 😉
12 Feb 13
Originally posted by RJHindsWhat promise would that be? And are you purposing that the USA is somehow the seed of Abraham? If you are I wonder where you could possibly get that from?
Because of the promise God made to Abraham that was past on to the tribes of Israel.
http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/node/290
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Originally posted by galveston75No, that is not what I am saying. I was not referring to the seed of Abraham. Did you read the reference -- there are two physical fulfillments of the promise through the two sons of Joseph by the blessing given to them by Jacob (Israel).
What promise would that be? And are you purposing that the USA is somehow the seed of Abraham? If you are I wonder where you could possibly get that from?
You are referring to the spiritual fulfilling of the blessing by Abraham. Here is an answer to that question:
"Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ." Galatians 3:16
"For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." Galatians 3:27-29
http://www.letgodbetrue.com/bible/prophecy/seed-of-abraham.php
12 Feb 13
Originally posted by FMFYou're not from around here, are you?
My point exactly. You seem to be using, instead, a "stretch of the imagination" that involves a "motto", "every U.S. coin", what "most Americans think" and your freestanding, unsubstantiated claim that "God gave America full right to all land clear to the Pacific Ocean". If your view is not Bible-based, on what basis are you asserting that it's valid as a Chris ...[text shortened]... being merely a patriotic, nationalistic or even a just plain jingoistic perspective?
12 Feb 13
Originally posted by galveston75You assume much.
I think the Bible which would include Pauls words who were also inspired by God, say nothing at all about God being partial to any countries then or in the future.
And the Bible also cleary says that Jesus said that God's Kingdom is NO part of the world. If the USA were somehow set apart from that scriptures meanings, it would be clearly stated somewhe ...[text shortened]... untry would survive because of some special relationship God has over it as compared to others.
Never did I say that the US would survive to the end of the age.
13 Feb 13
Originally posted by RJHindsSo exactly how do you feel this applies the USA?
No, that is not what I am saying. I was not referring to [b]the seed of Abraham. Did you read the reference -- there are two physical fulfillments of the promise through the two sons of Joseph by the blessing given to them by Jacob (Israel).
You are referring to the spiritual fulfilling of the blessing by Abraham. Here is an answer to that questio ...[text shortened]... se." Galatians 3:27-29
http://www.letgodbetrue.com/bible/prophecy/seed-of-abraham.php[/b]
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Originally posted by avalanchethecat😀
You're not wrong. I still always picture him (as I did as a kid) coming running out of his castle with his armour only half-on hurriedly finishing a slice of toast and mug of tea!
I had the same image until a couple of years ago. From somewhere
(a mis-informed teacher?) I'm sure I was once told that it was because
he was unready for war. A friend decided to become a mature student
and read English history so i have become a little more educated in the past
two years!