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07 Mar 18
07 Mar 18
Originally posted by @apathistNo. "Evil" is a word related to human morality.
I know you say evil is just an upper level of bad. One of the most horrible thing I'm aware of is that some creatures paralyze their prey and plant eggs in them. The eggs get a living host to feed on as they grow up. Are these parasites evil?
07 Mar 18
Originally posted by @js357Then why does it exist. Is the 'why?' question the problem?
If made implies maker, I'd rather go with "everything wasn't made", in an argument for the existence of a maker, to avoid the fallacy of begging the question (petitio principii).
07 Mar 18
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelThat would be us. So we are responsible for good, too.
You know who, the one that blames
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Originally posted by @apathistWe have on the one hand, non-theism:
Then why does it exist. Is the 'why?' question the problem?
Why is there our universe, rather than not?
Why is our universe the way our universe is?
Or
We have on the other hand, theism:
Why does our God exist, rather than not?
Why is our God the way our God is?
How does having God as answers to the first set, not lead to the second set?
07 Mar 18
Originally posted by @apathistI don't think they have any "sense of right or wrong" that's comparable or relevant to what we are discussing here. I was never taken in by the anthropomorphizing of animals that I saw in Walt Disney films when I was growing up. 😉
Did you just say that animals or creatures other than humans can not have a sense of right v wrong?
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On the OP, I think evil may just be the absence of good in the way darkness is the absence of light.
Evil came into existence, from a Biblical standpoint, with Lucifer’s rebellion against God. Evil came from the spiritual to worldly realms, again from a Biblical standpoint, with the rebellion of man against God.
If evil is the absence of good, then the existence of evil can be traced to God’s decision to give His creation free will. That doesn’t mean God created evil; it means God allowed the potential for evil to exist.
Originally posted by @romans1009Now same thing with no filter 🙂
On the OP, I think evil may just be the absence of good in the way darkness is the absence of light.
Evil came into existence, from a Biblical standpoint, with Lucifer’s rebellion against God. Evil came from the spiritual to worldly realms, again from a Biblical standpoint, with the rebellion of man against God.
If evil is the absence of good, then ...[text shortened]... will. That doesn’t mean God created evil; it means God allowed the potential for evil to exist.
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08 Mar 18
Originally posted by @fmfJust as some humans lack a sense of right and wrong.
I don't think they have any "sense of right or wrong" that's comparable or relevant to what we are discussing here. I was never taken in by the anthropomorphizing of animals that I saw in Walt Disney films when I was growing up. 😉
From an evolutionary POV, morality doesn't appear to a degree we can detect in "lower" animals but it is ambiguous, IMO, in animals more like us. It must be of use in order to have evolved where it IS of use,IOW it confers a net evolutionary advantage to a species that is equipped to use it for that advantage.
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08 Mar 18
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Originally posted by @karoly-aczelAllegories aside,Speaking cynically, morality is a system of psychological behavior control that defines approved and disapproved behavior and manipulates the emotions to reward approved behavior and punish disapproved behavior.
Now same thing with no filter 🙂
09 Mar 18
Originally posted by @apathistAccording to the Bible, God creates it.
God made everything that exists. Evil exists.So who is to blame for the existence of evil?
Isaiah 45:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.