God vs Satan

Originally posted by checkbaiter
This will make you stop and think for a while.



At the first class of every semester at a certain college there was a professor with a reputation for being somewhat tough on people of most all faiths, but he was particularly hard on Christians. He believed that people who believed in the One God, the God of Abraham and Issac and Jacob were followi ...[text shortened]... al instrument in accomplishing this momentous task would be a Persian king, who went by the n...

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Originally posted by KellyJay
I believe that is why we use 'G' in God, and 'g' in gods. There can be
several gods so called, but only one God.
Kelly

Theres is not one iota of difference between Anu's creating the Anunnaki and the OT God creating Lucifer et. al. Both are polytheistic concepts.
Likewise the pagan canaanite's gods El the father , Baal and the other sons of El, is the very story that the OT has as the God and his Angels.

In between Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. and , Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

When exactly did he make Angels?

In conclusion : There is no room in monotheism for demi-gods, because if one God holds all powers: there simply isn't any powers that any other gods could hold . Any exertions by powerless beings of their non-powers wouldn't effect anything but their own bruised egos.

Originally posted by rwingett
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lol and ditto

Originally posted by checkbaiter
The key word here is predominantly...there are some believers even in these nations...But as the article above states, (The Omega Letter Intelligence Digest ) evil cannot exist without good and visa versa, at least in this world.

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The simple fact is, the universe is created in a balance. In order for there to be darkness, there must first be light. ...[text shortened]... could not exist. Evil is a measure of the absence of good. Without good, evil could not exist."

Originally posted by checkbaiter
The key word here is predominantly...there are some believers even in these nations...

The believers would still lose at the polls, if it comes down to a vote.

Originally posted by checkbaiter
"Evil is a measure of the absence of good. Without good, evil could not exist."

I reject this definition. Evil is the act of causing harm or misfortune (www.m-w.com). There are morally neutral acts - acts that do not have good or bad effect on anyone.

Originally posted by rwingett
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I would suggest that you don't have to read my post's sir. I am sure there are others who will....🙂

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem

I reject this definition. Evil is the act of causing harm or misfortune (www.m-w.com). There are morally neutral acts - acts that do not have good or bad effect on anyone.[/b]

From (www.m-w.com)Main Entry: 2evil
Function: noun
1 a : the fact of suffering, misfortune, and wrongdoing b : a cosmic evil force
2 : something that brings sorrow, distress, or calamity
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How would you know this is evil, never knowing good?
How could you compare sorrow, etc., not knowing happiness?
Just as the article claims, darkness is simply the lack of light, so is evil, the lack of good. I just don't see the confusion...

Originally posted by frogstomp
Theres is not one iota of difference between Anu's creating the Anunnaki and the OT God creating Lucifer et. al. Both are polytheistic concepts.
Likewise the pagan canaanite's gods El the father , Baal and the other sons of El, is the very story that the OT has as the God and his Angels.

In between Gen 1:1 In the beginning God ...[text shortened]... powerless beings of their non-powers wouldn't effect anything but their own bruised egos.

Not hardly, God creating beings with various levels of power does not
mean that I believe in gods. The angelic host does not reach the level
of Godhood in the true sense of the word. They may be called gods
by some, but some call pieces of wood or stone that they carved out
of the trees or large rocks gods too. Acknowledging that does not at
all change the fact there is only one God, hence a monotheistic belief.
Kelly

Originally posted by checkbaiter
From (www.m-w.com)Main Entry: 2evil
Function: noun
1 a : the fact of suffering, misfortune, and wrongdoing b : a cosmic evil force
2 : something that brings sorrow, distress, or calamity
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How would you know this is evil, never knowing good?
How could you compare sorrow, etc., not knowing happiness?
Just as the article claims, d ...[text shortened]... ss is simply the lack of light, so is evil, the lack of good. I just don't see the confusion...

The dictionary definition is much clearer and better than the definition used by your article. The latter is vague and inaccurately worded. It takes more to achieve evil than just to avoid good. One must take the initiative and decide to perform an evil act. Your article is so caught up in oversimplistic analogies that it dilutes the very meaning of the word.

Originally posted by KellyJay
Not hardly, God creating beings with various levels of power does not
mean that I believe in gods. The angelic host does not reach the level
of Godhood in the true sense of the word. They may be called gods
by some, but some call pieces of wood or stone that they carved out
of the trees or large rocks gods too. Acknowledging that does not at
all change the fact there is only one God, hence a monotheistic belief.
Kelly

That's not the definition of monotheism ,, One God is,,and no semantic games are allowed. Any being with supernatural powers is a god, period.

Originally posted by frogstomp
That's not the definition of monotheism ,, One God is,,and no semantic games are allowed. Any being with supernatural powers is a god, period.

Again I beg to differ; having supernatural power does not make God,
only a being with powers that we call supernatural. The source of all
power is still a single being and that is still God. All life natural and
supernatural owes God for their very being and all that is owes God
the creator, the one that holds all things together by the power of His
Word. I did say there are gods, but only one God, with gods being
everything from a piece of wood to a demon and so on.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Again I beg to differ; having supernatural power does not make God,
only a being with powers that we call supernatural. The source of all
power is still a single being and that is still God. All life natural and
supernatural owes God for their very being and all that is owes God
the creator, the one that holds all things together by the power of His
Wo ...[text shortened]... but only one God, with gods being
everything from a piece of wood to a demon and so on.
Kelly

Just because you want the definition of polytheism to change to suit you , doesn't change the fact that a god is a supernatural being that has powers. You are confusing icon's with gods. The Devil that you believe in is a demi-god, period.

Originally posted by frogstomp
Just because you want the definition of polytheism to change to suit you , doesn't change the fact that a god is a supernatural being that has powers. You are confusing icon's with gods. The Devil that you believe in is a demi-god, period.

I call the devil the god of this world, but the devil owes all the power
he has to his own creator, which is God. I've said along that there are
gods, but there is only one God. That God is King of the universe,
Lord over all, there is none beside Him. He is the source of all life
and power, He is the creator of all. I'm agreeing with you there are
beings we call gods, even men are called that at times, even within
scripture, but there is only one God.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I call the devil the god of this world, but the devil owes all the power
he has to his own creator, which is God. I've said along that there are
gods, but there is only one God. That God is King of the universe,
Lord over all, there is none beside Him. He is the source of all life
and power, He is the creator of all. I'm agreeing with you there are
b ...[text shortened]... ds, even men are called that at times, even within
scripture, but there is only one God.
Kelly

So you accept your religion is polytheistic, mine isn't btw.

Originally posted by KellyJay
I call the devil the god of this world

and his name is Jehovah, or Nobodaddy.

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
and his name is Jehovah, or Nobodaddy.

history of judeo-christian religion is all about backsliding. and the constant battle to overcome paganism in the religion.