24 Aug 17
Originally posted by @sonshipWhen I got saved at 25 I didn't know any Christians, the ones who led me to the Lord I had just met. I asked God for Christian friends, next thing I knew I was sharing a 3 bedroom trailer with 4 other Christians. It was prayer and Bible studies all the time. In our place and others, it was a year before I joined a church and even then. I moved to a different town.
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Originally posted by @kellyjayThankyou for that testimony.
When I got saved at 25 I didn't know any Christians, the ones who led me to the Lord I had just met. I asked God for Christian friends, next thing I knew I was sharing a 3 bedroom trailer with 4 other Christians. It was prayer and Bible studies all the time. In our place and others, it was a year before I joined a church and even then. I moved to a different town.
I had heard a message by a certain Charles Simpson in which he talked about spending time with a few other Christians to help them. It as from that message I asked for God to put me with some brothers who could help me to grow.
Here are a few things that they taught me that have become life long beneficial habits.
1.) Start everyday with the Lord. Don't wait until you're dog tired in the evening and bring what ever is left over to God. You're spent. Rather let your first transaction of the day be to have a time with God.
That helped me grow.
2.) The helped to believe in the power of the blood of Christ. Accusation with or without some basis, is a major obstacle to advancing. I learned the prevailing power to overcome the accuser by the blood of Jesus.
3.) How to mix praying and reading of the Bible together to derive the maximum nourishment from the word of God.
Now some of this I already did kind of intuitively. But no one encouraged me yet.
It was the "Amen, Keep on keeping on with that" that greatly helped.
There's more. That's good enough for now. Don't be surprised if the skeptics get to work immediately to find fault with these few things.
You know though that in the Body of Christ the intention of God is that we teach others to do what we do. Gave gave gifted ones -
" ... for the perfecting of the saints unto the work of ministry, unto the bulding up of the Body of Christ, ..." (Eph. 4:12)
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Originally posted by @kellyjayHaving a small group of mutual help is very effective.
When I got saved at 25 I didn't know any Christians, the ones who led me to the Lord I had just met. I asked God for Christian friends, next thing I knew I was sharing a 3 bedroom trailer with 4 other Christians. It was prayer and Bible studies all the time. In our place and others, it was a year before I joined a church and even then. I moved to a different town.
God honors this with progress.
That is when the intention is really to come together into the name of the Lord Jesus.
24 Aug 17
Originally posted by @sonshipHe put into small groups before small groups were cool! 😉
Having a small group of mutual help is very effective.
God honors this with progress.
That is when the intention is really to come together into the name of the Lord Jesus.
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Originally posted by @fmfThe spiritual life in me, the divine life in me loves the brothers and sisters.
What about "brothers" who inspire you and don't inspire you here at RHP?
It is the Person who lives in my spirit.
Concerning the brothers and sisters here that I feel have met God, I recognize all as works in progress.
Originally posted by @sonshipAre you declaring yourself to be a 'good Christian to follow'?
The spiritual life in me, the divine life in me loves the brothers and sisters.
It is the Person who lives in my spirit.
Concerning the brothers and sisters here that I feel have met God, I recognize all as works in progress.
Are the others here good Christians to follow too?
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Originally posted by @fmfFor a person who is an Atheist, I don't see as sincere any interrogation of me - "Who is a good Christian to follow then ?"
Are you declaring yourself to be a 'good Christian to follow'?
Are the others here good Christians to follow too?
From your own vigorous admission it appears that you have no intention of following ANY Christian here.
Originally posted by @sonshipThis is a dodge, sonship. You started the discussion. My questions are on-topic. Are you declaring yourself - to all assembled here - to be a 'good Christian to follow'? Are the others here good Christians to follow as well? If you don't know these things, then why have you started a thread about this subject in which you purport to know.
For a person who is an Atheist, I don't see as sincere any interrogation of me - "Who is a good Christian to follow then ?"
From your own vigorous admission it appears that you have no intention of following ANY Christian here.
25 Aug 17
Originally posted by @fmfBecause he wants to believe he is God in judging who will have eternal life.
This is a dodge, sonship. You started the discussion. My questions are on-topic. Are you declaring yourself - to all assembled here - to be a 'good Christian to follow'? Are the others here good Christians to follow as well? If you don't know these things, then why have you started a thread about this subject in which you purport to know.
Knowing who won't is easy, or at least those on the path of destruction.
As far as I'm concerned, all others are maybes.
25 Aug 17
Originally posted by @sonshipAre "Christians" who are "works in progress" automatically "forgiven" [because Jesus was executed for sedition] and thus irreversibly "saved" even if they "sin", as you have claimed about yourself?
Concerning the brothers and sisters here that I feel have met God, I recognize all as works in progress.
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Originally posted by @eladarBecause he wants to believe he is God in judging who will have eternal life.
Because he wants to believe he is God in judging who will have eternal life.
Knowing who won't is easy, or at least those on the path of destruction.
As far as I'm concerned, all others are maybes.
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Though maybe 70 to 80 percent of discussions here gravitate into arguments about the assurance of salvation, this thread was never intended by me to be that rehash - "Who is saved and who is not ?? "
Its more about once one IS saved, helps in going ON in growth.
Knowing who won't is easy, or at least those on the path of destruction.
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The parable of the wheat and the tares teaches that Christians are not infallible about knowing others' state of salvation. Matthew 13:24-30 with its provided interpretation - verses 33-48 show that it is possible that true disciples will not always be able to detect false ones.
I don't claim to be infallible in this discernment either.
It, in fact, is NOT always easy to tell.
As far as I'm concerned, all others are maybes.
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There are hundreds of discussions started here. Very many of them eventually gravitate to yet another debate about who is saved and who is not.
This thread I intended to talk about something else. Using Paul and his companion workers, they were patterns to follow.
Though I may have made one recommendation of one modern day brother who inspires me to some amount of emulation, I won't be arm twisted to have to name posters here. And that especially with someone with no intention to follow any Christian.
25 Aug 17
Originally posted by @fmfYour questions are NOT "on-topic". You're merely engaging in perhaps your most often used "anti-Christian" tactic -- badgering the witness.
This is a dodge, sonship. You started the discussion. My questions are on-topic. Are you declaring yourself - to all assembled here - to be a 'good Christian to follow'? Are the others here good Christians to follow as well? If you don't know these things, then why have you started a thread about this subject in which you purport to know.
It's what you do.
Are you disappointed that your "accomplice badgerer" hasn't come to tag you out and himself in yet?