How Do You Explain This Error

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Welcome to the reality of existence Kelly.

Your reality, as you see it only in this life, once this life is over all that you hoped for, strived for, fought for, and fought against vanishes as you leave this place. Your pronouncements about this are it! Those only carry the weight of reality if you are correct. You cannot account for how anything got here, the right and wrongness about what is, is all in question, all debatable while we are here, and you see nothing past this life. Exactly what are you basing all of your hopes on because as near as I can tell you got nothing, nothing explains the beginning, everything is as real as you want them to be to you now, and you got nothing that informs you of the future. What is the foundation of your worldview, and feelings?

@kellyjay said
Your reality, as you see it only in this life, once this life is over all that you hoped for, strived for, fought for, and fought against vanishes as you leave this place.

What if what I hoped for, strived for and fought for in life was the happiness and well being of family and friends which continues after my death?

Edit: Sorry to update, but my reality of finality is your reality too, even if your head is in the sand.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
What if what I hoped for, strived for and fought for in life was the happiness and well being of family and friends which continues after my death?

Leaving them no different than you, here today, gone tomorrow.

@kellyjay said
Leaving them no different than you, here today, gone tomorrow.

Same goes for you too Kelly. Life is fleeting. There is no denying that.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
What if what I hoped for, strived for and fought for in life was the happiness and well being of family and friends which continues after my death?

Edit: Sorry to update, but my reality of finality is your reality too, even if your head is in the sand.

Your reality stops between your ears as you see it.
Reality does not change no matter what we think about it. What that means for you is your thoughts will be meaningless compared to how the prime reality is going direct your future.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Same goes for you too Kelly. Life is fleeting. There is no denying that.

This life is, I agree, and I do with all sincerity I can muster hope yours is a good one.

@kellyjay said
Your reality, as you see it only in this life, once this life is over all that you hoped for, strived for, fought for, and fought against vanishes as you leave this place. Your pronouncements about this are it! Those only carry the weight of reality if you are correct. You cannot account for how anything got here, the right and wrongness about what is, is all in question, ...[text shortened]... got nothing that informs you of the future. What is the foundation of your worldview, and feelings?

Do you feel as though you’re a religious martyr in here KellyJay?

Do you feel as though you are taking the stripes across your intellectual back for the cause of your beliefs?

I ask this because like those children attacked by the bear, you, your morality and your dogmatic rote learned beliefs are being ripped to shreds in here daily.

@moonbus said
The ancient Hebrews were ancestor worshippers, so genealogy (especially royal genealogy) mattered to them in a way it doesn't to us. How many years one or another patriarch ruled was less important than the lineage.

My speculation is that the purpose of those particular chapters was: some claimant charged a 'prophet' to insert him into a known lineage in oder to lay claim ...[text shortened]... , might be just a missing twiddle from the copyist's MS which flips a digit, an honest copy mistake.

The issue here is that there are Christians who claim there are no errors in the current bible, which was the KJV for a few centuries and that God/Holy Spirit looked over those [copyists included] doing the translations and guided them. Obviously this is a bogus claim.

@caissad4 said
Here we go again with the blaming of your Satan for what your god deliberately created . Your god created your Satan know beforehand what your Satan would do and did it anyway . Not good for your resume , lol. Then your god punished/rewarded your Satan by giving him a dominion of sorts over the creation of your god . Now you want to blame your Satan for what your god deliberately created . Australia has a serious rabbit problem . Is that solely the fault of the rabbits ??

Maybe, rather certainly, there is far more going on here that we can possibly imagine. We are just a speck of dust in this universe, which is billions of years old. In every single galaxy, and there are trillions, there is intelligent life like us and more advanced as well. What transpired before with God and Satan and why Satan was allowed to continue on with his evil is not for us to understand just yet. Maybe some other generation a thousand yrs from now might know more.

@divegeester said
Do you feel as though you’re a religious martyr in here KellyJay?

Do you feel as though you are taking the stripes across your intellectual back for the cause of your beliefs?

I ask this because like those children attacked by the bear, you, your morality and your dogmatic rote learned beliefs are being ripped to shreds in here daily.

KJ equates worshiping God with worshiping the Bible.
Hence his dilemma.

@rajk999 said
The issue here is that there are Christians who claim there are no errors in the current bible, which was the KJV for a few centuries and that God/Holy Spirit looked over those doing the translations and guided them. Obviously this is a bogus claim.

Deceiver, are you talking about the Word of God again, oh wait, do you even believe there is a written Word of God that you too are held to?

@rajk999 said
The issue here is that there are Christians who claim there are no errors in the current bible, which was the KJV for a few centuries and that God/Holy Spirit looked over those [copyists included] doing the translations and guided them. Obviously this is a bogus claim.

Well, yes, if one tries to read the Bible as if every word were the timeless voice of the Almighty, then one runs headlong into absurdities. Much of the OT, as with the Koran for that matter, is topical and applied only to the process of dragging an obstreperous and basically still savage people slowly towards civilization.

Nonetheless, the Bible is one of the seminal documents of Western culture, as it chronicles the transition of the ancient Hebrews from polytheistic ancestor worshipers who slaughtered live animals on stone altars, to a settled nation with a code of law and an abstract principle of justice which transcends the clan-blood-feud.

As we see in parts of the Near East even today, some peoples are still living in the bronze-age blood-feud mentality of ceaseless tit-for-tat violence. The message, how to live in peace with one's neighbors, hasn't sunk in there yet ...

@kellyjay said
Your reality, as you see it only in this life, once this life is over all that you hoped for, strived for, fought for, and fought against vanishes as you leave this place.

Your aspirations about your own immortality do not alter the reality that our lives are finite and end with our deaths. If your philosophy of life is that it's not worth hoping for things, striving for things, fighting for things, and fighting against things as you live your life ~ UNLESS you are convinced of your immortality by your own beliefs ~ strikes me as being a somewhat tragic mindset.

@rajk999 said
KJ equates worshiping God with worshiping the Bible.
Hence his dilemma.

Oh deceiver, deceiver is there anything you believe that has anything related to truth?

@kellyjay said
Oh deceiver, deceiver is there anything you believe that has anything related to truth?

Oh the irony.