19 Jul 22
@kingdavid403 saidThey are all different quotes by different human biologists and embryologists.
This is about the tenth time you've posted this hogwash blue-face.
19 Jul 22
@kingdavid403 saidYou appear to have reached your vinegar strokes.
Are you okay? have you been drinking again?
19 Jul 22
@kingdavid403 saidWell, I don't believe that life begins until conception.
Fair enough; however, the egg is a human organism before it is fertilized.
19 Jul 22
@kingdavid403 saidThank you for sharing your stance on this matter.
I caught that; and they are all wrong.
@kingdavid403 saidWe are not talking about miscarriages we are talking about life’s beginning, and the scriptures I gave you spoke about how God forms us in our mothers womb, and that women conceived and had children. These address the topic at hand life in the womb and conception. You have a doctrine of death pushing it over life.
No, life begins at birth actually. All fetuses miscarried in the Bible never existed as people. Sorry liar. The rest of your worthless mumbo jumbo has nothing to do with when life begins liar.
The only one denying truth and Scripture is you; liar.
Not sure what you think I am lying about it is logic and scripture that you are disagreeing with.
I can tell you that when miscarriages occurs the loss is still there and we grieve over them.
@kellyjay saidWe are not talking about miscarriages
We are not talking about miscarriages we are talking about life’s beginning, and the scriptures I gave you spoke about how God forms us in our mothers womb, and that women conceived and had children. These address the topic at hand life in the womb and conception. You have a doctrine of death pushing over life.
Not sure what you think I am lying about it is logic and scri ...[text shortened]... th.
I can tell you that when miscarriages occurs the loss is still there and we grieve over them,
Yes, we are.
I gave you spoke about how God forms us in our mothers womb,
The scriptures you presented talk about how God formed King David in his mothers womb; or, some other Bible Great. If God formed everyone in the womb, there would be no miscarriage's, stillbirths, etc.
King David knew who he was; That is all. Even so, King David's life did not begin until his birth.
You have a doctrine of death pushing over life.
Show us my "doctrine of death pushing over life"; liar.
I can tell you that when miscarriages occurs the loss is still there and we grieve over them,
Either way, a life never began from a miscarriage, or before that. A life begins at birth and not a moment before.
Hey FMF 14 edits with this. I'm growing. 🙂
19 Jul 22
@kingdavid403 saidYour stance on being pro-abortion and not recognizing life so you accept it is death over life. Only you have brought up miscarriages and so you are linking a natural death we have no control over to a deliberate ending of someone’s life as if they are the same, they are not. By your logic because people die naturally by heart attacks we have the right to kill them because we want to.
We are not talking about miscarriages
Yes, we are.
I gave you spoke about how God forms us in our mothers womb,
The scriptures you presented talk about how God formed King David in his mothers womb; or, some other Bible Great. If God formed everyone in the womb, there would be no miscarriage's.
King David knew who he was; That is all. Even so, Kin ...[text shortened]... ere and we grieve over them,[/b]
Either way, a life never began from a miscarriage, or before that.
@kellyjay saidYour stance on being pro-abortion
Your stance on being pro-abortion and not recognizing life so you accept it is death over life. Only you have brought up miscarriages and so you are linking a natural death we have no control over to a deliberate ending of someone’s life as if they are the same, they are not. By your logic because people die naturally by heart attacks we have the right to kill them because we want to.
In no way am I pro-abortion; liar. A good question for you is: Who is pro-abortion?
so you accept it is death over life.
Is that like putting someone to death for crimes committed?
so you are linking a natural death
How is a miscarriage a natural death? What ever miscarried was never alive.
By your logic because people die naturally by heart attacks we have the right to kill them because we want to.
Where does my logic point to this conclusion? Where did I ever say anything that remotely resembles this lie of yours?
It's your several lying comments as this, as to why I say you're a liar; which you clearly are. A liar and false witness bearer.
Only you have brought up miscarriages
Actually, it was God's Holy Word, the Bible, that brought it up. I just pointed it out to your little feeble mind, that's all.
If you actually studied scripture, you would know this already. Or, did you?
19 Jul 22
@kingdavid403 saidTo lie is to speak something I know is wrong to mislead altering truth for a falsehood. Accepting the pro-abortion stance as valid is to be in agreement with it, which is ending the life inside the womb. Even you gave scripture to that affect if I recall, a small fine, but it acknowledges that something not nothing happened to that life.
Your stance on being pro-abortion
In no way am I pro-abortion; liar. A good question for you is: Who is pro-abortion?
so you accept it is death over life.
Is that like putting someone to death for crimes committed?
so you are linking a natural death
How is a miscarriage a natural death? What ever miscarried was never alive.
[b]By your logic ...[text shortened]... Word, the Bible, that brought it up. I just pointed it out to your little feeble mind, that's all.
When they check the health of the baby when a woman is with child, they are looking for signs of life, heart beating, movement all of which a dead lifeless glob of cells would not have. The check for life would be not much different than if you were found laying along a road with few exceptions.
So you are denying life by your definition only, not by signs or scripture just the way you are looking at it. Do you think if I disagree with you, that is no different than lying?
@kellyjay saidYou are lying plain and simple.
To lie is to speak something I know is wrong to mislead altering truth for a falsehood. Accepting the pro-abortion stance as valid is to be in agreement with it, which is ending the life inside the womb. Even you gave scripture to that affect if I recall, a small fine, but it acknowledges that something not nothing happened to that life.
When they check the health of the ...[text shortened]... the way you are looking at it. Do you think if I disagree with you, that is no different than lying?
I never defied life. You made this up as a lie.
I am not pro-abortion ,nor have I taken a pro-abortion stance. Pro-choice maybe, not pro-abortion. You made this up as a lie.
they are looking for signs of life, heart beating, movement all of which a dead lifeless glob of cells would not have. of which a dead lifeless glob of cells would not have.
Exactly. See, you agree. lol... A heart is not fully formed until around five months of pregnancy
[ https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=167987 ].
it's a dead lifeless glob of cells until around then. Thanks for being honest for once.
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The check for life would be not much different than if you were found laying along a road with few exceptions.
What?
(Bumping this for the attention of kellyjay and Josephw)
To take someone’s life by state sponsored execution is to end their chance of survival and (if you believe in it) to send them directly to an eternity of suffering without reprieve. They could have repented! Who is are “you” to remove a persons chance of repentance!?
How can that murder, effectively that eternal condemnation , be morally justified by the likes of kellyjay and Josephw, those here who support the death penalty?
19 Jul 22
@divegeester saidA death penalty is assigned due to the actions that warrant it, because of due process. Choices for accepting Christ can be done on death row. The only person we know went to paradise to be with Christ was in the process of being killed by law, was on the cross next to Jesus.
(Bumping this for the attention of kellyjay and Josephw)
To take someone’s life by state sponsored execution is to end their chance of survival and (if you believe in it) to send them directly to an eternity of suffering without reprieve. They could have repented! Who is are “you” to remove a persons chance of repentance!?
How can that murder, effectively that ete ...[text shortened]... be morally justified by the likes of kellyjay and Josephw, those here who support the death penalty?
@kellyjay saidSo you choose death over life in this case? Wow, you defy life over death. Woes you... "You have a doctrine of death pushing over life."
A death penalty is assigned due to the actions that warrant it, because of due process. Choices for accepting Christ can be done on death row. The only person we know went to paradise to be with Christ was in the process of being killed by law, was on the cross next to Jesus.
A death penalty is assigned due to the actions that warrant it, because of due process
Wow, is this why they put Jesus to death? Everyone has always told me that Jesus was innocent; including God's Holy Word. Ever read it? 😏