19 Jul 22
@kingdavid403 saidMy personal belief about when life begins coincides with the analysis of all these biologists and embryologists I have been quoting.
In the view your proposing, ones genetic life history, it begins with the single cell. Simple as that.
19 Jul 22
@fmf saidAt the moment the sperm cell of the human male meets the ovum of the female and the union results in a fertilized ovum (zygote), a new life has begun....
"Embryo: The developing individual between the union of the germ cells and the completion of the organs which characterize its body when it becomes a separate organism.... At the moment the sperm cell of the human male meets the ovum of the female and the union results in a fertilized ovum (zygote), a new life has begun.... The term embryo covers the several stages of early de ...[text shortened]... conception to the ninth or tenth week of life."
from Van Nostrand's Scientific Encyclopedia.
This is a plain out lie.
Any life begins at birth.
The forming of the physical body of any person begins when a pregnancy happens; and, not a moment before.
@kingdavid403 saidYou obviously think that saying this is persuasive or compelling. You should consider dolling it up a bit and sending it, for inclusion, to the journals of Medical Embryology, Human Embryology & Teratology, the publishers of Patten's Foundations of Embryology, and Essentials of Human Embryology, Harper Collins Illustrated Medical Dictionary, and Van Nostrand's Scientific Encyclopedia. Drop them a line and tell them that they are all lying.
This is a plain out lie.
@fmf saidA fertilized egg is not a pregnancy that will turn into a human being. Unless, "it" implants in the women's uterine wall and becomes a pregnancy and begins to grow into a human. duh...
You obviously think that saying this is persuasive or compelling. You should consider dolling it up a bit and sending it, for inclusion, to the journals of Medical Embryology, Human Embryology & Teratology, the publishers of Patten's Foundations of Embryology, and Essentials of Human Embryology, Harper Collins Illustrated Medical Dictionary, and Van Nostrand's Scientific Encyclopedia. Drop them a line and tell them that they are all lying.
Your right, I should. Because it's a lie. Facts are facts; truth is truth; a lie is a lie.
Most fertilized eggs don't implant in the woman's uterine wall and DO NOT become a life.
So how come life didn't begin at a fertilized egg like the rest of us for these poor lost fertilized eggs?
19 Jul 22
@kingdavid403 saidThe fertilized egg is where life begins.
A fertilized egg is not a pregnancy that will turn into a human being.
19 Jul 22
@kingdavid403 saidSo what? The development of human beings begins with the fertilization of the egg, a.k.a. conception. The fact that many of them don't get very far is neither here nor there.
Most fertilized eggs don't implant in the woman's uterine wall and DO NOT become a life.
19 Jul 22
@fmf saidthem don't get very far is neither here nor there
So what? The development of human beings begins with the fertilization of the egg, a.k.a. conception. The fact that many of them don't get very far is neither here nor there.
Lost lives of persons or people (in your opinion) is neither here no there?
19 Jul 22
@kingdavid403 said"Development of the human body is the process of growth to maturity. The process begins with fertilization, where an egg released from the ovary of a female is penetrated by a sperm cell from a male. The resulting zygote develops through mitosis and cell differentiation, and the resulting embryo then implants in the uterus, where the embryo continues development through a fetal stage until birth. Further growth and development continues after birth, and includes both physical and psychological development, influenced by genetic, hormonal, environmental and other factors. This continues throughout life: through childhood and adolescence into adulthood."
The physical forming of a body begins at pregnancy.
from "Human body/Basic form and development". Encyclopedia Britannica.
19 Jul 22
@kingdavid403 saidOK, I understand your position. My belief is that life begins at conception. When the egg is fertilized it becomes a human organism.
Yep, that's when life begins for any person.
@fmf saidThis is about the tenth time you've posted this hogwash blue-face. Are you okay? have you been drinking again?
"Development of the human body is the process of growth to maturity. The process begins with fertilization, where an egg released from the ovary of a female is penetrated by a sperm cell from a male. The resulting zygote develops through mitosis and cell differentiation, and the resulting embryo then implants in the uterus, where the embryo continues development through a feta ...[text shortened]... ence into adulthood."
from "Human body/Basic form and development". Encyclopedia Britannica.
19 Jul 22
@kingdavid403 saidThe fact that not all human embryos develop and then end up getting born is neither here nor there vis a vis the notion that human life begins at conception.
them don't get very far is neither here nor there
Lost lives of persons or people (in your opinion) is neither here no there?