@kellyjay saidtrying to find the very spot in time when life begins isn't something we need to concern ourselves with.
trying tofind the very spot in time when life begins isn't something we need to concernourselves with.
I'm not sure why you are being so equivocal.
[1] You believe that life begins at conception: own it
[2] That is fed into your moral compass
[3] Let the analysis it gives you govern your personal actions
[4] Don't have anything to do with terminating a pregnancy
(Got flipped so reposting for the attention of kellyjay and Josephw)
To take someone’s life by state sponsored execution is to end their chance of survival and (if you believe in it) to send them directly to an eternity of suffering without reprieve. They could have repented! Who is are “you” to remove a persons chance of repentance!?
How can that murder, effectively that eternal condemnation , be morally justified by the likes of kellyjay and Josephw, those here who support the death penalty?
18 Jul 22
@fmf saidI'm saying it is self-evident, life begins at conception, I own it, and there is
trying to find the very spot in time when life begins isn't something we need to concern ourselves with.
I'm not sure why you are being so equivocal.
[1] You believe that life begins at conception: own it
[2] That is fed into your moral compass
[3] Let the analysis it gives you govern your personal actions
[4] Don't have anything to do with terminating a pregnancy
nothing to debate when life begins; it is plain. I'm not sure what you are
complaining about unless it is because I have taken a stance and you
have to argue with me.
18 Jul 22
@kingdavid403 saidNo conception is when it begins. It's the moment when someone who was not
conception is not a life dumb arse. It's not even a pregnancy.
Why not just arrest every woman who has her period then. Now, that's the beginning of life; in your little mind anyway.
You deny God's Truth and Facts for a lie. Nothing less.
here before life starts, all of the parts required for life come together, and life's
formational processes begin. This is clear in scripture, and I'm not the one who
denies text or goes against life for death; in this case, that is you. Jesus came
that could have life and that more abundantly, and you desire death at the very
beginning of life as a right as if we can just end someone's life for any reason.
@kellyjay saidthere is nothing to debate when life begins.
I'm saying it is self-evident, life begins at conception, I own it, and there is
nothing to debate when life begins.
Is there not?
Do you mean you are unaware that there is, indeed, a debate?
Or do you mean you feel very strongly about your personal opinion and don't want to debate it?
18 Jul 22
@kellyjay saidI have taken a stance and you have to argue with me.
I'm saying it is self-evident, life begins at conception, I own it, and there is
nothing to debate when life begins; it is plain. I'm not sure what you are
complaining about unless it is because I have taken a stance and you
have to argue with me.
I also think that life begins at conception, if that's what you are getting at.
18 Jul 22
@kellyjay saidthere is nothing to debate when life begins; it is plain.
I'm saying it is self-evident, life begins at conception, I own it, and there is
nothing to debate when life begins; it is plain. I'm not sure what you are
complaining about unless it is because I have taken a stance and you
have to argue with me.
That's right. Life of a person on this earth begins at birth. It's in the Bible several times. Read it for once.
@kellyjay saidNo, life begins at birth actually. All fetuses miscarried in the Bible never existed as people. Sorry liar. The rest of your worthless mumbo jumbo has nothing to do with when life begins liar.
No conception is when it begins. It's the moment when someone who was not
here before life starts, all of the parts required for life come together, and life's
formational processes begin. This is clear in scripture, and I'm not the one who
denies text or goes against life for death; in this case, that is you. Jesus came
that could have life and that more abundantly, and ...[text shortened]... death at the very
beginning of life as a right as if we can just end someone's life for any reason.
The only one denying truth and Scripture is you; liar.
@kingdavid403 saidOne wonders if the three edits you made to this bizarrely obnoxious post were made in order to increase or decrease its obnoxiousness.
No, life begins at birth actually. All fetuses miscarried in the Bible never existed as people. Sorry liar. The rest of your worthless mumbo jumbo has nothing to do with when life begins liar.
The only one denying truth and Scripture is you; liar.
18 Jul 22
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@fmf saidYou're the only one; with no life. One wonders if you think that I care what you wonder. 😀 Sorry that it obnoxiously tramples your atheist belief of when the life of a person actually begins.
One wonders if the three edits you made to this bizarrely obnoxious post were made in order to increase or decrease its obnoxiousness.
4 edits for this post also. 😆 😉
18 Jul 22
@fmf saidPeople debate, they speculate, they ponder, they muse; it isn't until there is some
there is nothing to debate when life begins.
Is there not?
Do you mean you are unaware that there is, indeed, a debate?
Or do you mean you feel very strongly about your personal opinion and don't want to debate it?
line drawn that people start getting up in arms because it does not matter where
the line is drawn; some will be on one side and others on the other. So what do
we do; if all questions are unanswered because someone doesn't agree, someone
feels they are left out, they have some reason to deny all that is right in front of
them because there may be something we don't know, that is just people voicing
opinions, and it will never be anything other than that.
What is there to ponder if we know where life starts and when it starts? Still even
if that is all acknowledged as true, some still feel that a woman's right to choose
trumps the life anyway, heard a nurse say that. That takes us back to where we go
for judgment calls, is it just a choice no matter when life starts, then it isn't even
a discussion on life, but instead, does life have value, and who gets to grant it
when. If the line isn't intrinsic, than any value will do, we can even paint one
another with various degrees of worth, some colors, nationalities, political
preferences have less say than others; what is the difference we are making it
up as we go?
18 Jul 22
@kingdavid403 saidYou were quoted scriptures saying that isn't true, but you ignored them, you choose
there is nothing to debate when life begins; it is plain.
That's right. Life of a person on this earth begins at birth. It's in the Bible several times. Read it for once.
death instead of life.