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Is capital punishment morally wrong?

Is capital punishment morally wrong?

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@kellyjay said
God gives life and takes it; we don't do that.
So why do you approve of capital punishment?

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@kellyjay said
God gives life and takes it; we don't do that. God and set down laws and
man for actions that give precise justification for taking a life, self-defense, war,
execution for crimes committed, not just for being. Now to compare someone
who has done something by law warrants the punishment of death than to
compare that individual to a life that has not done a single thing w ...[text shortened]... f millions with all causes having nothing to do with the guilt or
innocents of those being aborted.
. God and set down laws and
man for actions that give precise justification for taking a life, self-defense, war, execution for crimes committed,

Please share where these "Precise justifications for taking a life" are please?
I didn't get a copy of your list.

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@kellyjay said
Do you have anything to add about the OP?
Kelly, if they don't believe God by not believing the scriptures, and not "retain God in their knowledge"(reprobate), they're never going to believe a Bible believing Christian.

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@josephw said
Pure hypocrisy on your part.
Are you drunk or something?

You’re particularly wired up and abusive today.

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@kingdavid403 said
. God and set down laws and
man for actions that give precise justification for taking a life, self-defense, war, execution for crimes committed,

Please share where these "Precise justifications for taking a life" are please?
I didn't get a copy of your list.
Maybe God should have passed it by you before giving his law, or before deciding who should live or die, or why and how.

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@josephw said
Kelly, if they don't believe God by not believing the scriptures, and not "retain God in their knowledge"(reprobate), they're never going to believe a Bible believing Christian.
Kelly, if they don't believe God by not believing the scriptures,
You have NO Scriptures on the abortion issue; NONE! Other than the one I posted, where God clearly says that a fetus or cells being removed (a miscarriage) it NOT considered as murder. In fact, it is a relatively minor crime with the max sentence being a fine.
So what does one call a person who says there is something in the Bible that is not there? (reprobate) is it?? Or liar? False witness bearer of God and His Holy Word maybe?

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@josephw said
Kelly, if they don't believe God by not believing the scriptures, and not "retain God in their knowledge"(reprobate), they're never going to believe a Bible believing Christian.
What scriptures would you like to present whatever case it is you want to make?

Do you want to address the juxtaposition in the OP?

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@divegeester said
Are you drunk or something?

You’re particularly wired up and abusive today.
Keep talking. Eventually you may inadvertently say something true.

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@josephw said
Keep talking. Eventually you may inadvertently say something true.
I never lie Joseph.

Do try to calm yourself.

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@divegeester said
What scriptures would you like to present whatever case it is you want to make?

Do you want to address the juxtaposition in the OP?
Address Revelation 20:11-15.

Oh that's right, you did! According to you it isn't the word of God.

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@josephw said
Address Revelation 20:11-15.

Oh that's right, you did! According to you it isn't the word of God.
Can you prove that it is?

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@josephw said
Address Revelation 20:11-15.

Oh that's right, you did! According to you it isn't the word of God.
[Revelation 20:11-15 NKJV] 11 "Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is [the Book] of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire."
What's your point josephw?

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@kingdavid403 said

What's your point josephw?
His point is that he’s upset because I don’t conform to his set of beliefs.

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@kingdavid403 said
Kelly, if they don't believe God by not believing the scriptures,
You have NO Scriptures on the abortion issue; NONE! Other than the one I posted, where God clearly says that a fetus or cells being removed (a miscarriage) it NOT considered as murder. In fact, it is a relatively minor crime with the max sentence being a fine.
So what does one call a person wh ...[text shortened]... at is not there? (reprobate) is it?? Or liar? False witness bearer of God and His Holy Word maybe?
As I told you before abortion isn't in the Bible, I have also shared that life in
the womb is counted as life with John the Baptist but there are more. Scripture
teaches just within the womb God talks about the lives of more than just John
while they are still in the womb pre and post-birth.

It is clear that God makes us from a small selection of scriptures below, if you
think it is a little thing to kill what is in the womb, talk to God.

Isaiah 44:24
Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, who formed you from the womb: “I am the Lord, who made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself,

Psalm 22:10
On you was I cast from my birth, and from my mother's womb you have been my God.

Psalm 127:3
Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward.

Psalm 139:13
For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb.

Ecclesiastes 11:5
As you do not know the way the spirit comes to the bones in the womb of a woman with child, so you do not know the work of God who makes everything.

Isaiah 44:2
Thus says the Lord who made you, who formed you from the womb and will help you: Fear not, O Jacob my servant, Jeshurun whom I have chosen.


Genesis 25:23
And the Lord said to her, “Two nations are in your womb, and two peoples from within you shall be divided; the one shall be stronger than the other, the older shall serve the younger.”

Genesis 30:2
Jacob's anger was kindled against Rachel, and he said, “Am I in the place of God, who has withheld from you the fruit of the womb?”

Genesis 30:22
Then God remembered Rachel, and God listened to her and opened her womb.

Exodus 13:2
“Consecrate to me all the firstborn. Whatever is the first to open the womb among the people of Israel, both of man and of beast, is mine.”

Deuteronomy 7:13
He will love you, bless you, and multiply you. He will also bless the fruit of your womb and the fruit of your ground, your grain and your wine and your oil, the increase of your herds and the young of your flock, in the land that he swore to your fathers to give you.

Judges 13:7
but he said to me, ‘Behold, you shall conceive and bear a son. So then drink no wine or strong drink, and eat nothing unclean, for the child shall be a Nazirite to God from the womb to the day of his death.’”

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@kellyjay said
As I told you before abortion isn't in the Bible, I have also shared that life in
the womb is counted as life with John the Baptist but there are more. Scripture
teaches just within the womb God talks about the lives of more than just John
while they are still in the womb pre and post-birth.

It is clear that God makes us from a small selection of scriptures below, if you
think it is a little thing to kill what is in the womb, talk to God.
So what about someone on death row? Executing them sends them straight to Jesus for eternal suffering. Surely this person is a potential child of God and Jesus may want to save them?

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