17 Jul 22
@divegeester saidAnd?
So what about someone on death row? Executing them sends them straight to Jesus for eternal suffering. Surely this person is a potential child of God and Jesus may want to save them?
@josephw saidWell he didn't, so your smart-arse comment is worthless. I'm sure you and kelly jay feel God should have passed it by you tho.
Maybe God should have passed it by you before giving his law, or before deciding who should live or die, or why and how.
17 Jul 22
@kellyjay saidYou are still dodging. When does a life begin in the womb? Quit dodging and answer the question.
As I told you before abortion isn't in the Bible, I have also shared that life in
the womb is counted as life with John the Baptist but there are more. Scripture
teaches just within the womb God talks about the lives of more than just John
while they are still in the womb pre and post-birth.
It is clear that God makes us from a small selection of scriptures below, if y ...[text shortened]... t nothing unclean, for the child shall be a Nazirite to God from the womb to the day of his death.’”
17 Jul 22
@divegeester saidWhat was your question? Does Jesus want us all saved? Yes. Can we do things that
Run away from it if you like 🙂
end our lives? Yes. Was there a question; please think these things through so people
can respond; if you don't spell out what it is you are getting at, no one can answer
you; we cannot read your mind.
17 Jul 22
@kellyjay saidYou’re being disingenuous again Kellyjay.
What was your question? Does Jesus want us all saved? Yes. Can we do things that
end our lives? Yes. Was there a question; please think these things through so people
can respond; if you don't spell out what it is you are getting at, no one can answer
you; we cannot read your mind.
However here is the question to you challenging your support for the death penalty, whist you also claim that all killing is wrong.
So what about someone on death row? Executing them sends them straight to Jesus for eternal suffering. Surely this person is a potential child of God and Jesus may want to save them?
I’ve bolded it to help you.
@kellyjay saidAs I told you before abortion isn't in the Bible
As I told you before abortion isn't in the Bible, I have also shared that life in
the womb is counted as life with John the Baptist but there are more. Scripture
teaches just within the womb God talks about the lives of more than just John
while they are still in the womb pre and post-birth.
It is clear that God makes us from a small selection of scriptures below, if y ...[text shortened]... t nothing unclean, for the child shall be a Nazirite to God from the womb to the day of his death.’”
Very good, you're growing.
You do know that abortion was just as common in the days of Jesus as it is today right? even several hundreds of years before that, , do you not?
Notice not a word from Jesus, the Apostles, Old Testament Bible greats etc. NOTHING.
That's because the abortion Law then was up until the "Quickening."
Israel and the Jews have extremely liberal laws on abortion today compared to the USA. That's because they know when life begins. That's essentially at birth on this earth.
17 Jul 22
@kingdavid403 saidLife in the womb is the only thing you need to concern yourself with; trying to
You are still dodging. When does a life begin in the womb? Quit dodging and answer the question.
find the very spot in time when life begins isn't something we need to concern
ourselves with. When life is conceived, women become with child; you see this
any other way, you have a stopwatch that can say no, no, not at conception, maybe
a few seconds later, or hours, or days, or weeks, or months later? Are you willing
to toy with life that God starts by ending it and claiming it is a right to kill what
God has started?
Genesis 4:1
Cain and Abel
Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, saying, "I have gotten a man with the help of the Lord."
Genesis 16:4
And he went in to Hagar, and she conceived. And when she saw that she had conceived, she looked with contempt on her mistress.
Genesis 21:2
And Sarah conceived and bore Abraham a son in his old age at the time of which God had spoken to him.
@kellyjay saidLife in the womb is the only thing you need to concern yourself with;
Life in the womb is the only thing you need to concern yourself with; trying to
find the very spot in time when life begins isn't something we need to concern
ourselves with. When life is conceived, women become with child; you see this
any other way, you have a stopwatch that can say no, no, not at conception, maybe
a few seconds later, or hours, or days, or weeks, or m ...[text shortened]... nd Sarah conceived and bore Abraham a son in his old age at the time of which God had spoken to him.
I know, when is it life in the womb?
trying to
find the very spot in time when life begins isn't something we need to concern
LOL.. Says who? you? lol...
17 Jul 22
@kellyjay saidBut surely you believe that "the very spot in time when life begins" is at conception? Why is it "something we need not concern ourselves with?
Life in the womb is the only thing you need to concern yourself with; trying to
find the very spot in time when life begins isn't something we need to concern
ourselves with.
17 Jul 22
@divegeester saidI responded to that, and you failed to grasp the meaning of my answer. I'm not
You’re being disingenuous again Kellyjay.
However here is the question to you challenging your support for the death penalty, whist you also claim that all killing is wrong.
So what about someone on death row? Executing them sends them straight to Jesus for eternal suffering. Surely this person is a potential child of God and Jesus may want to save them?
I’ve bolded it to help you.
going to do the you repeat the same question 20 times as I try to clear it up for
you?
17 Jul 22
@fmf saidOnce life begins, it has begun, looking for a time in the womb that is okay to kill it
But surely you believe that "the very spot in time when life begins" is at conception? Why is it "something we need not concern ourselves with?
doesn't exist, suggesting otherwise isn't needless there isn't a good time.
@fmf saidBecause conception is not even a pregnancy. Most conceived eggs are flushed out of the womb before they get a chance to implant in a woman's uterus. All those poor little people are flushed down the toilet, or thrown out in the trash on a dirty tampon etc.
But surely you believe that "the very spot in time when life begins" is at conception? Why is it "something we need not concern ourselves with?
Even when a fertilized egg implants in a womb, this makes the womb shut down, so all the other little people floating around cannot implant in their mothers uterus, so that they will die (according to KellyJay) and be flushed out of womb.
Woes us; how can we play God to save them all?