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@divegeester saidExcellent point 👍👍
Mistaking the exchanges in this forum as giving an impression of Christianity is a significant error in judgment.
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@suzianne saidI know. It was just a general observation.
That wasn't anything approaching my point.
But to your point, I don’t see spirituality as one river. I think that implies that all belief systems have the same credibility.
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@filthyherman saidI go by the Holy Bible.
There are those that believe that many of the roads lead to the same place.
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
(John 14:6)
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@divegeester saidI'm not sure why.
Mistaking the exchanges in this forum as giving an impression of Christianity is a significant error in judgment.
I've found the exchanges in this forum to be quite consistent with other Christian behavior observed outside here.
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@kevin-eleven saidHow and why you define Christianity and Christians can be anything you want them to be; that doesn't make what you think true. It only means by your definition you make it out to be that way.
This forum is flooded with squabbling about a certain faith tradition that not everyone believes in, and of course said squabbling gives the impression that said faith tradition is a legalistic virus propagated by the infected.
Please let's have less of that and more true spirituality untainted by that viral psychosis.
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@bigdogg saidWe are both n = 1 then, 😄
I'm not sure why.
I've found the exchanges in this forum to be quite consistent with other Christian behavior observed outside here.
There are indeed some awful experiences to be had out there, however the particular tone of this place isn’t what I’ve seen in the religion.
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@divegeester saidI see you have spotted an opportunity to try to play Suzianne and me against each other.
Suzianne makes a good point in this thread which you started; why not try to address her comment?
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@pb1022 saidDon't they?
I know. It was just a general observation.
But to your point, I don’t see spirituality as one river. I think that implies that all belief systems have the same credibility.
We all have decisions to make.
This is my point.
As humans, we have to recognize that externally, all belief systems are legitimate. And yes, I mean within reason. No matter who you are, having sex with animals or children is wrong, for example.
This is what "free will" is about. You "pay your money and take your chances".
This is why looking down on others for their spiritual beliefs is wrong. Just like looking down on others for their race is wrong.
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@pb1022 saidAnd others go by different holy texts.
I go by the Holy Bible.
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
(John 14:6)
And some go by no text.
We all make our bed early on. Changing someone else's mind in this regard is most often not going to happen. Some may have "deathbed conversions", but that's between them and their God.
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@suzianne saidI understand what you’re saying and agree for the most part, but I disagree that all belief systems as they pertain to God and salvation are legitimate.
Don't they?
We all have decisions to make.
This is my point.
As humans, we have to recognize that externally, all belief systems are legitimate. And yes, I mean within reason. No matter who you are, having sex with animals or children is wrong, for example.
This is what "free will" is about. You "pay your money and take your chances".
This is why loo ...[text shortened]... ers for their spiritual beliefs is wrong. Just like looking down on others for their race is wrong.
But I don’t look down on anyone for their spiritual beliefs. I find atheism and the theory of evolution to be pretty indefensible, but I think for a lot of atheists, the theory of evolution is simply a way to justify their atheism.
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@suzianne saidI think people who take the time to look into evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ will come away convinced the Resurrection happened *if they have an open mind when they look into it.*
And others go by different holy texts.
And some go by no text.
We all make our bed early on. Changing someone else's mind in this regard is most often not going to happen. Some may have "deathbed conversions", but that's between them and their God.
Sadly, most people won’t bother and (I think) figure they’ll deal with the afterlife when/if it comes. They don’t realize or believe God is a tremendous resource and help while we’re on earth.