Is Jesus Christ God?

Originally posted by checkbaiter
This is in answer to #1....
I am wrong...you are right...all I know is this...Jesus Christ is referred to in the Bible as the Last Adam.
Therefore he is a man through and through. But just as Adam was made
morally innocent or pure since his life came straight from God, so Jesus
was made morally innocent from birth, because his life stemmed from the d ...[text shortened]... born morally pure like Adam, without a sin nature, and was capable of sinning, but chose not to.

Thank you for your answer, but I'm still a little unclear. Most of this conversation was directed toward the concept of Original Sin and the proponents of the doctrine trying to except Jesus from it. Do you believe in Original Sin i.e. that all humans since Adam are attainted by his sin of disobedience? If so, why was Jesus, who was a man through and through as you state, free from Original Sin?

Originally posted by kirksey957
Do you think Jesus masterbated?

Actually I try not to think that way about Jesus. But since you ask...No..

That would be sin and we know He did not sin. However, I do know that He was tempted to, but did not.

Do you think He did?

Originally posted by checkbaiter
Actually I try not to think that way about Jesus. But since you ask...No..

That would be sin and we know He did not sin. However, I do know that He was tempted to, but did not.

Do you think He did?

Yes. It only adds to his divinity, at least for me.

Originally posted by no1marauder
Thank you for your answer, but I'm still a little unclear. Most of this conversation was directed toward the concept of Original Sin and the proponents of the doctrine trying to except Jesus from it. Do you believe in Original Sin i.e. that all humans since Adam are attainted by his sin of disobedience? If so, why was Jesus, who was a man through and through as you state, free from Original Sin?

Original Sin is simply referring to the sin that Adam comitted...
It was much more than eating an apple, which is not even biblical.
The bible says that the commandment was as follows..

Gen 2:16-17
16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat;
17 "but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die."
(NKJ)

Of course Adam did eat of it and disobeyed God...this is the original sin.
The Tree may be a metaphor or a figure of speech...excactly what it was, I don't know.
What I do know is that the ramifications of that sin were immense, as you can see what the bible says about it...

Gen 3:12-15
12 Then the man said, "The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I ate."
13 And the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate."
14 So the LORD God said to the serpent: "Because you have done this, you are cursed more than all cattle, and more than every beast of the field; on your belly you shall go, and you shall eat dust all the days of your life.
15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel."
(NKJ)

This is a prophecy of the Redeemer, Jesus Christ. Whatever that sin was, it corrupted Adam and Eve's relationship with God. And God promised a Redeemer to repair the damage caused by these two people and the Serpent.
I believe that authority was transferred from Adam to the Serpent. Why?
Because when Satan tempted Jesus he offered Jesus this authority "that was delivered to him" Luke 4:6

Every man since Adam inherits this "sin" when born...thus the following verses...

Rom 5:14-21
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.
15 But the free gift is not like the offense. For if by the one man's offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many.
16 And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification.
17 For if by the one man's offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore, as through one man's offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man's righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man's obedience many will be made righteous.
20 Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more,
21 so that as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
(NKJ)

The Redeemer could not have this "sinful nature" or else he would not qualify as the Redeemer....Hebrews Chapter 9 explains much of this.

So in my previous answer I already explained why Jesus did not have a sin nature.

Originally posted by kirksey957
Yes. It only adds to his divinity, at least for me.

Now it's my turn..."please tell me you don't believe that satement."

Originally posted by checkbaiter
Original Sin is simply referring to the sin that Adam comitted...
It was much more than eating an apple, which is not even biblical.
The bible says that the commandment was as follows..

Gen 2:16-17
16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat;
17 "but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil ...[text shortened]... ch of this.

So in my previous answer I already explained why Jesus did not have a sin nature.

I'm sorry I asked, as this is a lot of mindless babble.

Originally posted by no1marauder
I'm sorry I asked, as this is a lot of mindless babble.

I figured that, but at least now I have a C&P to refer to...😉

Originally posted by checkbaiter
Now it's my turn..."please tell me you don't believe that satement."

Can you cite a passage in the Bible where it says it is a sin to masturbate? Please do not mention lust or other vague references that have nothing to do with masturbation. I want something specific.

Originally posted by kirksey957
Can you cite a passage in the Bible where it says it is a sin to masturbate? Please do not mention lust or other vague references that have nothing to do with masturbation. I want something specific.

No...Although masturbation per se is not condemned in the Bible, many of the ac­tivities associated with it are. It is not an exaggeration to say that most masturbation is accompanied by ungodly thinking, and the pressure to mastur­bate can be reduced significantly if people were stricter about what they allowed themselves to be exposed to.
Furthermore, masturbating while looking at pornography is wrong. The Bible is very clear that the Christian is to control his or her thoughts:

2 Corinthians 10:5
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

Since arousal is usually accompanied by erotic thoughts, the Christian who controls his or her mind will discover that he or she has much less “need” to masturbate...So in conclusion, while the bible does not outright condemn it..it is not a godly act. To me it is carnal thinking.

Originally posted by zakkwylder
At one point in the bible, Paul had a vision of heaven where he saw God, with Jesus at his side. Distinctly meaning they're 2 separate entities. Also there was no 'holy spirit' there signifying that it is a force and not an entity.

I agree completely!
Also check out this verse....


1 Cor 15:27-28
27 For "He has put all things under His feet." But when He says "all things are put under Him," it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted.
28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
(NKJ)

Sounds a little confusing, but what it is saying is that Jesus himself, will be subject to God.

I commend you in seeing something that most Christians don't see, or refuse to see......
😉

Originally posted by checkbaiter
No...Although masturbation per se is not condemned in the Bible, many of the ac­tivities associated with it are. It is not an exaggeration to say that most masturbation is accompanied by ungodly thinking, and the pressure to mastur­bate can be reduced significantly if people were stricter about what they allowed themselves to be exposed to.
Furthermore, ...[text shortened]... hile the bible does not outright condemn it..it is not a godly act. To me it is carnal thinking.

Is it your belief that arousal comes from satan and not God?