Originally posted by chaney3Not giving up and not avoiding some 'obvious' problem whatever that may be.
Why are you giving up?
I am asking for a Bible verse that proves Jesus is God.....without having to 'assume' what He may have meant.....something clear.
My guess is that you realize you cannot, and would rather avoid the obvious problem.
Read John 1:1, it speaks about the Word and who the Word is.
In case you dont know, Jesus is the Word!
I will warn you though, some here are going to refute that, thus the reason I suggested you seek for yourself.
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeOkay. This is pretty good. Can you provide where this is in the Bible? I will read more of it for context.
"Lord, show us the Father, and we will be satisfied."
Jesus replied, "Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and yet you still don't know who I am? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father! So why are you asking me to show him to you?"
Originally posted by leunammiIf everyone doesn't believe it is true, he won't believe it.
Not giving up and not avoiding some 'obvious' problem whatever that may be.
Read John 1:1, it speaks about the Word and who the Word is.
In case you dont know, Jesus is the Word!
I will warn you though, some here are going to refute that, thus the reason I suggested you seek for yourself.
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Originally posted by galveston75
Alpha and Omega (75 occurrences)
Incorrect.
There are four references to "Alpha and Omega"
Rev. 1:8, 11; 21:6; 22:13
"While many apply this title both to God and to Christ, a more careful examination of its use restricts its application to Jehovah God.
The speaker of "I am the Alpha and the Omega" (Rev:22:13) is Jesus Christ as Jehovah incarnate.
Verse 16 follows to identify the Speaker -
"I Jesus have sent My angel to testify to you these things for the churches. (v.16a)
... The first verse of Revelation shows that the revelation was given originally by God and through Jesus Christ, hence the one speaking (through an angelic representative) at times is God himself, and at other times it is Christ Jesus."
Christ is God incarnate, the truth which the natural mind hates and will not believe.
Revelation 1:1 has no bearing on Christ being Jehovah God become a Man.
"And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead; and He placed His right hand on me, saying,
Do not fear, I am the First and the Last
And the living One, and I became dead, and behold I am living forever and ever; ..." (v.17,18a)
"The First and the Last"
"The Beginning and the End" and
"The Alpha and the Omega"
all amount to the SAME THING.
Different expressions are used to express the same truth - Jesus Christ is Jehovah God Almighty incarnate as the Lord and Savior.
"The title “the Alpha and the Omega” applies to Jehovah, stressing that there was no almighty God before him and that there will be none after him.
Rev. 22:13 - " I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End "
verse 16 "I Jesus have sent My angel to testify to you these things for the churches ..."
The One speaking to us that He is "the Alpha and the Omega" is "I Jesus".
The One coming on the clouds of heaven and witnessed by all the tribes of the holy land is Jesus.
"Behold, He comes with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him, and all the TRIBES OF THE LAND will mourn over Him. Yes, amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, says the Lord God, He who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty." (Rev. 1:7,8)
