01 Sep 19
When I was 11 or 12, my dad worked for JPL on a small part of the Voyager spacecrafts. He was allowed (or maybe he just took the liberty) to etch his name on one of the crafts. He passed away last year and I can hardly imagine that something with his name on it is over 13 billion miles away...and he is not here...
The universe, finite or infinite, is beyond my ken.
01 Sep 19
@hakima saidI'm sorry for your loss hakima.
When I was 11 or 12, my dad worked for JPL on a small part of the Voyager spacecrafts. He was allowed (or maybe he just took the liberty) to etch his name on one of the crafts. He passed away last year and I can hardly imagine that something with his name on it is over 13 billion miles away...and he is not here...
The universe, finite or infinite, is beyond my ken.
I've lost both my parents, and the world isn't the same.
01 Sep 19
@hakima saidI read somewhere that in terms of general size a human being is approximately half way between the smallest particle and and the largest star known to us.
Googolplex + 1
It can be conceived, but...
my little brain can’t even perceive it...
If this is more or less accurate then it makes me realise how small the small things are, even more than how big the big things are.
01 Sep 19
@hakima saidSorry for you loss. An amazing story.
When I was 11 or 12, my dad worked for JPL on a small part of the Voyager spacecrafts. He was allowed (or maybe he just took the liberty) to etch his name on one of the crafts. He passed away last year and I can hardly imagine that something with his name on it is over 13 billion miles away...and he is not here...
The universe, finite or infinite, is beyond my ken.
01 Sep 19
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@divegeester saidI suspect much what the bible calls heavens / universe is just the Milky Way Galaxy. Nothing outside of that can be seen with the human eye. Of course the heavens where God resides is way beyond our galaxy.
The texts in the bible which relate to the universe/heavens clearly indicate that it is finite.
For a start it was created and therefore has a beginning. If it has a beginning it has an end.
Secondly there is prophetic text that the heavens will be rolled up like a carpet.
Thirdly there will be a new heaven and a new earth.
Pretty conclusive.
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01 Sep 19
@kellyjay saidYes, most likely.
Is the universe we live in eternal in size or scope?
I say, no.
It is an error to view the big bang as the start of everything.
01 Sep 19
@ghost-of-a-duke saidReally, at worse I would have thought it was just a piece of the puzzle that points to a beginning. You have something you can put up next to the Big Bang evidence that suggests what you are saying is not the error instead of the other way around?
Yes, most likely.
It is an error to view the big bang as the start of everything.
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01 Sep 19
@kellyjay saidYes.
Really, at worse I would have thought it was just a piece of the puzzle that points to a beginning. You have something you can put up next to the Big Bang evidence that suggests what you are saying is not the error instead of the other way around?
The universe has always existed, in one form or another. There are endless big bangs and big crunches, negatating any notion of a beginning. And hey, time is merely a human construction anyway to make the incomprehensible comprehensible.
We can debate this for a few days if you like, or simply agree now that I am right.
01 Sep 19
@ghost-of-a-duke saidThat is a heck of a truth statement, and you know this how?
Yes.
The universe has always existed, in one form or another. There are endless big bangs and big crunches, negatating any notion of a beginning. And hey, time is merely a human construction anyway to make the incomprehensible comprehensible.
We can debate this for a few days if you like, or simply agree now that I am right.
01 Sep 19
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI choose option two, I disagree. 🙂 I bet you didn't see that coming. LOL
Yes.
The universe has always existed, in one form or another. There are endless big bangs and big crunches, negatating any notion of a beginning. And hey, time is merely a human construction anyway to make the incomprehensible comprehensible.
We can debate this for a few days if you like, or simply agree now that I am right.
01 Sep 19
@ghost-of-a-duke saidNo, I'm just being clear that God, and a god, are not the same by any reasoning.
If you need a particular God, let's go with Waheguru.