04 Sep 17
Originally posted by @eladarGod not spelling out every truth is not God misleading. God saying if we want Wisdom all
No, I am calling most people blind.
we have to do is ask Him for it is not misleading. Our sinful lives keeps us from grasping
the truth, but God has made a way that if we seek Him with all of our hearts we will find
Him. That is not purposely keeping people away, it is saying that a casual glance around
will not discover God, and also that we must meet God on God's terms, not our own, or
anyone else' way to God.
04 Sep 17
Originally posted by @kellyjayExactly, the blind are blind.
I don't see the words most people are blind from you, so how am I supposed to get that
out of the words you directed at God?
"God is intentionally misleading and most people are misled."
Then they go around other blind people claiming to see. Such is the nature of reality.
04 Sep 17
Originally posted by @eladarTwo different things, people are blind by default, and then those that are attempting to
Exactly, the blind are blind.
Then they go around other blind people claiming to see. Such is the nature of reality.
know God without God's Spirit, yet claiming they do. Those that are without God's Spirit
have no grasp at all of the things of God, they cannot understand God's Word, or God
they will always look upon God in the flesh, which is all they have, and ever will have
unless they go make God their Lord and Savior and receive the Spirit of God within.
04 Sep 17
Originally posted by @kellyjay"No, and as I said, I stop looking for what I have found."
No, and as I said, I stop looking for what I have found. You want to suggest that God is not
the grand truth of the universe? There might be many claims for what is truth, but I know
of only one that matters and that is God, there is only One, and besides Him is no other.
There isn't any in the past besides Him, or above Him, there isn't any besides or ...[text shortened]... urselves instead of listening to the One who made it all, who maintains it
all, who never lies.
Okay, any key will do for you. Okay, if it works for you.
I, on the other hand, don't stop until I found a key that fits into my car. If the first one doesn't then I continue to search.
A good sign that a person has not found the Universal Truth - is that he thinks he has found it. And therefore stop searching.
How would you know that you've found the Universal Truth? When there are plenty who also have found the Universal Truth! And that their universal truth are all different from eachother, and furthermore is different from yours!
To use your terminology - God is the only one who has the Universal Truth and noone else will understand this Universal Truth!
Satan is whispering in your ears - "You've found the Universal Truth! Stop search further!"
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Originally posted by @fabianfnasA good sign that a person has not found the Universal Truth - is that he thinks he has found it. And therefore stop searching.
"No, and as I said, I stop looking for what I have found."
Okay, any key will do for you. Okay, if it works for you.
I, on the other hand, don't stop until I found a key that fits into my car. If the first one doesn't then I continue to search.
A good sign that a person [b]has not found the Universal Truth - is that he thinks he has found it. An ...[text shortened]... !
Satan is whispering in your ears - "You've found the Universal Truth! Stop search further!"[/b]
Problem is if the above is not universally true it's worthless. So you have a bit of a catch22 right there.
04 Sep 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerIt is possible, but that does not change the truth that I have stated.
What if you have just described yourself?
I simply do not turn a blind eye to what Jesus said due to societal values.
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04 Sep 17
Originally posted by @eladarWell as long as you aren't twisting His words and adding your own I guess there is no harm in quoting His exact words.
It is possible, but that does not change the truth that I have stated.
I simply do not turn a blind eye to what Jesus said due to societal values.
04 Sep 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI don't know, peopke seem ro have a problem with Jesus stating that he taught in parables so certain people would not understand, turn and be healed.
Well as long as you aren't twisting His words and adding your own I guess there is no harm in quoting His exact words.
You for one do not like the idea and deny Jesus' own words.
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04 Sep 17
Originally posted by @eladarWell the fact that Jesus said that doesn't mean He wanted some people damned. Those are your words not His. You should use other parts of scripture to interpret texts like that not your own thoughts. Jesus said He is not willing that anyone should perish but that all should be saved. Those are His words as well so you are the one who is contradicting Him when you say He wants some people damned.
I don't know, peopke seem ro have a problem with Jesus stating that he taught in parables so certain people would not understand, turn and be healed.
You for one do not like the idea and deny Jesus' own words.
04 Sep 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerThe fact that he said that doesn't mean Jesus wanted to do it.
Well the fact that Jesus said that doesn't mean He wanted some people damned. Those are your words not His. You should use other parts of scripture to interpret texts like that not your own thoughts. Jesus said He is not willing that anyone should perish but that all should be saved. Those are His words as well so you are the one who is contradicting Him when you say He wants some people damned.
Is what Jesus did wrong or right?