06 Sep 17
Originally posted by @eladarDoes it matter what terms are being used? Does it matter what society? If you love some
The names I called Jesus are human terms not God's. You will not find those terms as insulting in the Bible, just society. So if you took offemse it is because you mix the two.
Adding man's morality to God's leads one away from God.
body you don't go around making them look bad in front of others, because others don't
understand due to cultural norms. The fact you are insulting Him by implying evil intent
only due to culture, is as you say insulting Him using cultural norms. How is anyone going
to drawn to Jesus by you putting Jesus down instead of lifting Him up, which is what we
are told to do?
Originally posted by @kellyjayIf it doesn't matter what society, then why did Jesus warn against the leavening of the Pharisees?
Does it matter what terms are being used? Does it matter what society? If you love some
body you don't go around making them look bad in front of others, because others don't
understand due to cultural norms. The fact you are insulting Him by implying evil intent
only due to culture, is as you say insulting Him using cultural norms. How is anyone going ...[text shortened]... to Jesus by you putting Jesus down instead of lifting Him up, which is what we
are told to do?
It is important to know what is of God and what is of man. If you claim to love Jesus but do so following the rules of man then you do not follow Jesus at all and will in the end being rejected by Jesus.
06 Sep 17
Originally posted by @eladarHe waged war against self righteousness, not people, that which binds us, stops us from approaching God on God's terms. You realize what you are defending is your insulting Jesus right?
If it doesn't matter what society, then why did Jesus warn against the leavening of the Pharisees?
It is important to know what is of God and what is of man. If you claim to love Jesus but do so following the rules of man then you do not follow Jesus at all and will in the end being rejected by Jesus.
06 Sep 17
Originally posted by @kellyjaySo was Jesus waging war against the self righteous here?
He waged war against self righteousness, not people, that which binds us, stops us from approaching God on God's terms. You realize what you are defending is your insulting Jesus right?
He said to another man, “Follow me.”
But he replied, “Lord, first let me go and bury my father.”
60 Jesus said to him, “Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God.”
61 Still another said, “I will follow you, Lord; but first let me go back and say goodbye to my family.”
62 Jesus replied, “No one who puts a hand to the plow and looks back is fit for service in the kingdom of God.”
07 Sep 17
Originally posted by @eladarSelf-righteous and any form of sin we have.
So was Jesus waging war against the self righteous here?
He said to another man, “Follow me.”
But he replied, “Lord, first let me go and bury my father.”
60 Jesus said to him, “Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God.”
61 Still another said, “I will follow you, Lord; but first let me go back and say goodbye to ...[text shortened]... d, “No one who puts a hand to the plow and looks back is fit for service in the kingdom of God.”
Originally posted by @kellyjayWhy does Jesus say many who claim to know him will be rejected?
Self-righteous and any form of sin we have.
I'll give you a hint, it ain't for self righteousness.
Jesus said few will find the way to eternal life but many will claim he is lord but be rejected.
07 Sep 17
Originally posted by @eladarReally, did you read Matthew 7? These guys were standing before God telling Him why
Why does Jesus say many who claim to know him will be rejected?
I'll give you a hint, it ain't for self righteousness.
Jesus said few will find the way to eternal life but many will claim he is lord but be rejected.
He should let them in, all the things they did, they did things so God in their minds should
have accepted them, they hoped He would, but they didn't know Jesus! Things if you
read the text He doesn't even deny, the trouble with these guys, they didn't know Jesus.
They were all about doing the right things, not getting right with God, receiving His Spirit
and walking with Him.
It is sin that is going to keep everyone out of the Kingdom of God if they do not have
Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, there is no other way.
Do you have God's Spirit within you?
Matthew 7
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
07 Sep 17
Originally posted by @kellyjaySo Jesus rejects workers of lawlessness. Do you really think Jesus gave an exhaustive list of examples?
Really, did you read Matthew 7? These guys were standing before God telling Him why
He should let them in, all the things they did, they did things so God in their minds should
have accepted them, they hoped He would, but they didn't know Jesus! Things if you
read the text He doesn't even deny, the trouble with these guys, they didn't know Jesus.
They ...[text shortened]... And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
07 Sep 17
Originally posted by @eladarHe hit the only point that mattered, which is if you do not know the Lord, you are not going
So Jesus rejects workers of lawlessness. Do you really think Jesus gave an exhaustive list of examples?
to be saved on judgment day. Getting Jesus into your life, NOT lets see how many I can
offend using Jesus name is what matters.
07 Sep 17
Originally posted by @kellyjayYes he did hit the point when he said he would reject people who practiced lawlessness.
He hit the only point that mattered, which is if you do not know the Lord, you are not going
to be saved on judgment day. Getting Jesus into your life, NOT lets see how many I can
offend using Jesus name is what matters.
Or do you deny Jesus' words?
Originally posted by @eladarNot at all, but this is the whole of it isn't it. You can pout about lawlessness, breaking the
Yes he did hit the point when he said he would reject people who practiced lawlessness.
Or do you deny Jesus' words?
commandments of God such as loving God and each other, but if you don't know the Lord
it doesn't matter you will stand guilty as those will be on judgment day. Yours and my, and
everyone else' hope if it isn't in Jesus Christ it doesn't matter. So when you instead of
lifting Jesus name up to draw men to Him, slander it, what good is that doing? You admit
you are insulting due to culture, where does it say do that in scripture?
I'm not denying Jesus' words, neither am I denying Jesus.
Do you have the Spirit of God within you? Hoping so isn't a good answer!
07 Sep 17
Originally posted by @kellyjaySo the whole of it denies Jesus' statement?
Not at all, but this is the whole of it isn't it. You can pout about lawlessness, breaking the
commandments of God such as loving God and each other, but if you don't know the Lord
it doesn't matter you will stand guilty as those will be on judgment day. Yours and my, and
everyone else' hope if it isn't in Jesus Christ it doesn't matter. So when you ins ...[text shortened]... am I denying Jesus.
Do you have the Spirit of God within you? Hoping so isn't a good answer!
07 Sep 17
Originally posted by @kellyjayBlund to what? Your faulty assumptions when it comes to Jesus' requirements for following him? Or perhaps your faulty assumptions about self proclaimed salvation?
You must be purposely blind!
If your assumptions were valid they would be in line with what Jesus said.