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Originally posted by @eladar
I take it you liked it.
Haha, I've got you sussed old chap.

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Originally posted by @divegeester
Haha, I've got you sussed old chap.
Hey man, to each his own.

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Originally posted by @eladar
Hey man, to each his own.
Sure I agree;
- you to your gluttony, drunkenness and gay tendencies.
- me to calling you out

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Originally posted by @divegeester
Sure I agree;
- you to your gluttony, drunkenness and gay tendencies.
- me to calling you out
You in your elderly dimensional state, remembering your glory days.

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Originally posted by @eladar
I guess that's because you are too blind to see. I'll quote the exact words again.

Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.’[a]
And again, what do YOU think this means?

The question here is not what he said, it's your interpretation of what he said that is in question. But go ahead, keep making a fool of yourself by claiming that your words are his.

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Originally posted by @suzianne
And again, what do YOU think this means?

The question here is not what he said, it's your interpretation of what he said that is in question. But go ahead, keep making a fool of yourself by claiming that your words are his.
It means what it means. It means that Jesus taught in parables so that people would not understand what he was saying. The reason given by Jesus was so that they would not repent and be healed.

You can either accept Jesus' explanation he gave to his chosen men, or you can reject Jesus' truth.

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Originally posted by @eladar
Did Pharaoh have free will or did God harden his heart?
The same thing that happened to him happens to all unrepentant sinners. God reveals and some repent and others harden their hearts.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
The same thing that happened to him happens to all unrepentant sinners. God reveals and some repent and others harden their hearts.
Paul wrote thay God hardened Pharaoh's heart.

Was Paul wrong?

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Originally posted by @eladar
Paul wrote thay God hardened Pharaoh's heart.

Was Paul wrong?
What did I say that makes you think I disagree with Paul?

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
What did I say that makes you think I disagree with Paul?
"For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden."


Paul claims that God hardened Pharaoh's heart.

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Here we have it in Exodus too.

Then the Lord said to Moses, “See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet. 2 You are to say everything I command you, and your brother Aaron is to tell Pharaoh to let the Israelites go out of his country. 3 But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and though I multiply my signs and wonders in Egypt, 4 he will not listen to you.

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Originally posted by @eladar
"For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden."


Paul claims that God hardened Pharaoh's heart.
I disagreed how?

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
The same thing that happened to him happens to all unrepentant sinners. God reveals and some repent and others harden their hearts.
You say that others harden their hearts and clearly God hardened Pharaoh's heart.

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Originally posted by @eladar
You say that others harden their hearts and clearly God hardened Pharaoh's heart.
I said God shows us the reality of Him, with that we do one of two things, we move towards God or away. You move away by harding your heart, it is the only thing we can do. Notice when God did great things in front of him, he then harden his heart. Sinners love sin and want to stay the way they are, God upsets that.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
I said God shows us the reality of Him, with that we do one of two things, we move towards God or away. You move away by harding your heart, it is the only thing we can do. Notice when God did great things in front of him, he then harden his heart. Sinners love sin and want to stay the way they are, God upsets that.
So did Pharaoh harden his own heart or did God harden Pharaoh's heart?

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