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@bigdogg said
That's one way to look at it.

Another way is that Believers often struggle with logic. They call such instances "faith". 😂😂😂
Athists struggle with what they see, in the end, they call such things illusions.

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@moonbus said
Stop trying to interpret spiritual messages as if they were biological facts, and all of your doubts will dissolve.
Says the one who denies Biological facts for fear they have spiritual implications.

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@kellyjay said
Athists struggle with what they see, in the end, they call such things illusions.
If you claim to "see" Jesus is risen from the dead or claim to be satisfied and edifiied with how you "see" the Trinity is "The Truth" etc., that is fine and if it gives you solace then it is more than fine. But your claim that people like me "struggle" with [or because of] all this is mistaken.

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@philokalia said
Going up to Christians and others interested in rthe religion discussing the doctrine of the Trinity and providing some snotty comment about how the Bible itself might be fake is just crashing a party to put yuor foot in your mouth.
crashing a party

Perhaps you need to be posting on a Christianity forum and then the only "snotty" people you'd need to deal with would be "snotty" Christians.

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@divegeester said
The trinity is a set of three distinct people/persons. Look it up.
Ergo, a trinity.

Three distinct personalities. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. One God.

I wish you would make up your mind.

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@divegeester said

Hear oh Israel, the Lord your God is ONE.
The Shema, (Hebrew: “Hear” ), the Jewish confession of faith made up of three scriptural texts (Deuteronomy 6:4–9, 11:13–21; Numbers 15:37–41), which, together with appropriate prayers, forms an integral part of the evening and morning services.

Recited by the Jews since Moses penned it 3500 years ago, and quoted by Jesus in Mark 12:29.

Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"

"God" in this verse is the Hebrew word ĕlōhîm, which is plural > Gods.

The word God is translated from the Hebrew word ĕlōhîm over 200 times in Genesis alone, as far as I can see.

Where the English word LORD occurs, it is God's name, Jehovah.

The text in Hebrew reads; "šāmaʿ yiśrā'ēl Yᵊhōvâ ĕlōhîm Yᵊhōvâ eḥāḏ".

Please try to refrain yourself from defining and interpreting who and what God is and allow the text to have its own way.

In other words, shut up and shema the word of God.

And don't worry, you're not the only self-styled professing christian that butchers the Bible.

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@josephw said
Ergo, a trinity.

Three distinct personalities. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. One God.

I wish you would make up your mind.
Yes that’s what I said.

Make my mind up about what?

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@josephw said

Please try to refrain yourself from defining and interpreting who and what God is and allow the text to have its own way.
I’ve given sound that reasoning, example and scripture to back up what I have deduced about the Godhead.

You’re a regurgitator; believing what you do because you’ve had it taught to you.

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@divegeester said

Make my mind up about what?
In your OP you said, "No “trinity”, no “god the son”, no “eternal son” are mentioned anywhere at all in the bible."

Yet now you're agreeing there is a "trinity."

But you have bigger problems than that.

You said also in your OP; "Of course as there is no “eternal son”.

I'll only refute this one statement by you because I'll not waste more time on the rest of you erroneous comments with regards to who and what the Bible says about God, since you're far to gone to the left to understand more.

1 Timothy 1:17
Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Jesus, the Son of God, the King eternal. Jesus is eternal life. Jesus is eternal. Are you so stupid?

Your teachers lie.

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@divegeester said
I’ve given sound that reasoning, example and scripture to back up what I have deduced about the Godhead.

You’re a regurgitator; believing what you do because you’ve had it taught to you.
What you've "deduced"?

Oh, please.

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@josephw said
In your OP you said, "No “trinity”, no “god the son”, no “eternal son” are mentioned anywhere at all in the bible."

Yet now you're agreeing there is a "trinity."

But you have bigger problems than that.

You said also in your OP; "Of course as there is no “eternal son”.

I'll only refute this one statement by you because I'll not waste more time on the rest of you e ...[text shortened]... the King eternal. Jesus is eternal life. Jesus is eternal. Are you so stupid?

Your teachers lie.
And this is why I beseeched him to give us his version.

Yes, his version. According to him, deduced entirely by himself.

Eh, not so much, obviously.

And, he's a Universalist. It figures. It means he doesn't feel that he has to atone for anything. The religion of narcissists.

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@josephw said
Yet now you're agreeing there is a "trinity."
No I’m not.

Where have I agreed this?

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@suzianne said
And this is why I beseeched him to give us his version.
“Beseeched”?

Lol what!

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@suzianne said
And, he's a Universalist. It figures. It means he doesn't feel that he has to atone for anything. The religion of narcissists.
What on earth are you blithering on about?
Who does atone for anything?

The atonement was done by Christ.

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@suzianne said

And, he's a Universalist.
I don’t know what this is. But when it comes to the Godhead, I’m a Unitarian. One god, me spirit, one entity, one person.

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