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Originally posted by galveston75
I think I've answered accordingly. You are not my judge on how I answer and it is clear you are not ever looking for the answers we give and could really care less but only here to antagonize all you can.
define how you know that my purpose is to antagonize and not to defend things i care about? have a look at the things we clash on and tell me its because i just want to antagonize.............it wasnt long ago that in private we were telling each other that although we disagree with each other we respect each others honesty.......now im just here for the entertainment, after one post criticizing you.

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Originally posted by divegeester
Robbie said in the other thread that he thought a person would be precluded from eternal life if they were not a member of the JW organisation, however in this thread he says he doesn't know. It is quite confusing for readers of Hesse threads to understand where it is you stand on this matter as corporate body and also as individuals, if there is a diffe ...[text shortened]... ce.

Where do you stand, which of the two answers robbie has given do you align with, if any?
so tell us where does the Bible state that you do not need to be part of an organisation, you have said it, you stated that it was not explicit, so where does the idea come from? Surely you must know?

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Originally posted by divegeester
Robbie said in the other thread that he thought a person would be precluded from eternal life if they were not a member of the JW organisation, however in this thread he says he doesn't know. It is quite confusing for readers of Hesse threads to understand where it is you stand on this matter as corporate body and also as individuals, if there is a diffe ...[text shortened]... ce.

Where do you stand, which of the two answers robbie has given do you align with, if any?
Hello! Hello! Anyone there? Must not be as I've answered this clearly before to you. Still not listening it seems.
As I said before pray to Jehovah for help as I can't seem to produce the answers you want.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Hello! Hello! Anyone there? Must not be as I've answered this clearly before to you. Still not listening it seems.
As I said before pray to Jehovah for help as I can't seem to produce the answers you want.
do you remember the story about jesus where he got frustrated and sarcastic because he wasnt understood...............nope.

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Originally posted by stellspalfie
define how you know that my purpose is to antagonize and not to defend things i care about? have a look at the things we clash on and tell me its because i just want to antagonize.............it wasnt long ago that in private we were telling each other that although we disagree with each other we respect each others honesty.......now im just here for the entertainment, after one post criticizing you.
Well you lied a few post ago and have not responded to that, so the respect went out the window I would believe.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Part 4:


Does the Bible show that true Christians would be an organized people?


Matt. 24:14; 28:19, 20: “This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.” “Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them . . . teaching them.” (Ho ...[text shortened]... to accomplish a particular work is an organization.)


And you say we don't answer you....
Bt this is an answer to a question that has not been asked Galveston. What I think you think these scriptures show is that a measure of organisation and coordination is required for the disciples to cary out their tasks. I'm sure you will agree that there is a huge difference between a group of guys being organised and being a corporate organisation. However so there is no confusion in a future discussions, I shall from now on refer to your organisation and the Jehovah's Witness "corporation".

My question to you remains unanswered. If I'm not a member of your corporation, am I precluded from eternal life?

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Originally posted by galveston75
Well you lied a few post ago and have not responded to that, so the respect went out the window I would believe.
hes just being contentious, its all he knows, drop kick him onto touch.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Hello! Hello! Anyone there? Must not be as I've answered this clearly before to you. Still not listening it seems.
As I said before pray to Jehovah for help as I can't seem to produce the answers you want.
I apologise if you gave me an answer and I missed it. Please, was it a yes or was it a no?

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Originally posted by galveston75
Well you lied a few post ago and have not responded to that, so the respect went out the window I would believe.
You have no respect for me Galveston so please drop the pretence. What did you think I lied about, I will apologise if I've said something wrong.

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Originally posted by divegeester
Bt this is an answer to a question that has not been asked Galveston. What I think you think these scriptures show is that a measure of organisation and coordination is required for the disciples to cary out their tasks. I'm sure you will agree that there is a huge difference between a group of guys being organised and being a corporate organisation. H ...[text shortened]... ains unanswered. If I'm not a member of your corporation, am I precluded from eternal life?
where does it state that you do not need to be part of an organisation, you said it you believe it, so tell us where it sates that you do not need to be part of an organisation? As far as i aware Galveston has answered you many times with reason, where are your reasons, surely you must have some?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
hes just being contentious, its all he knows, drop kick him onto touch.
Of course i am being contentious! I'm making a contention against your religious corporation.

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Originally posted by divegeester
Of course i am being contentious! I'm making a contention against your religious corporation.
I have asked almost ten times to tell us where from the scriptures that the idea that you do not need to belong to a religious organisation comes from, where is it? You don't know, do you, you have simply made it up, its nothing more than an opinion, isnt it, yours. It has no basis in anything.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
hes just being contentious, its all he knows, drop kick him onto touch.
I know, He's pretty clever with his tactics but I think I have him figured out. He is really trying to play us agaiunst each other and I find that kind of funny.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
where does it state that you do not need to be part of an organisation, you said it you believe it, so tell us where it sates that you do not need to be part of an organisation? As far as i aware Galveston has answered you many times with reason, where are your reasons, surely you must have some?
I've already said that it does not say that in the text, any more than it says you do not have be catholic.

You have today stated that you believe that non membership of your religious corporation will preclude me from eternal life. The onus here is on you to provide evidence robbie.

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Originally posted by divegeester
I've already said that it does not say that in the text, any more than it says you do not have be catholic.

You have today stated that you believe that non membership of your religious corporation will preclude me from eternal life. The onus here is on you to provide evidence robbie.
so its not in the Bible, you have simply made it up?

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