23 Jun 13
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou are the member of the religious corporation telling me that I need to become a member in order to have the possibility of eternal life, the onus is on you to provide the evidence.
I have asked almost ten times to tell us where from the scriptures that the idea that you do not need to belong to a religious organisation comes from, where is it? You don't know, do you, you have simply made it up, its nothing more than an opinion, isnt it, yours. It has no basis in anything.
23 Jun 13
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Originally posted by divegeesterno its not on me, you have made a statement that you do not think that anyone needs to be part of an organisation, in order to enter Gods Kingdom, see salvation, get eternal life, etc etc etc were did the idea come from, nowhere, you simply made it up, it has no basis in any reality other than your own, a self certified opinion, its true because you its true, wow. Another propagandist that believes their own propaganda. That's all it is, your propaganda. Nothing more. Why should anyone believe that its true? You have provided no references, no reasons, nothing, an empty and hollow statement, wow.
I've already said that it does not say that in the text, any more than it says you do not have be catholic.
You have today stated that you believe that non membership of your religious corporation will preclude me from eternal life. The onus here is on you to provide evidence robbie.
23 Jun 13
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Originally posted by divegeesterlets ask you some questions,
No I've said three times now that it is not written in the bible. However the onus is on you as the member of the corporation making the claims to provide the evidence to support those claims.
Does God, as described in scripture have a heavenly organisation?
23 Jun 13
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieGood grief robbie, please slow down and engage your mind a little. The idea that we do not need to be part of a corporate religion comes from the fact that nowhere in the entire bible does it say we need to.
no its not on me, you have made a statement that you do not think that anyone needs to be part of an organisation, were did the idea come from, nowhere, you simply made it up, it has no basis in any reality other than your own, a self certified opinion, its true because you its true, wow. Another propagandist that believes their own propaganda. That's all it is, your propaganda. Nothing more.
23 Jun 13
Originally posted by divegeesterSo it comes from what is not written in the Bible, is that what you are saying? that doesn't even make sense, its not written in scriptures that you cannot shoot someone with a gun but it can be discerned by looking at other principles, so what principles have you examined that has led you to this conclusion?
Good grief robbie, please slow down and engage your mind a little. The idea that we do not need to be part of a corporate religion comes from the fact that nowhere in the entire bible does it say we need to.
23 Jun 13
Originally posted by divegeesterI am asking you if God has a heavenly organisation? corporation is not my term, i have not introduced it, it is yours. So once again, does God have a heavenly organisation?
Referring to my previous posts with Galveston regarding the meaning of "organisation" Are you asking me if heaven is organised or is a corporation?
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23 Jun 13
Originally posted by galveston75if i lied then im not aware. if you could do the decent think and politely remind me of my 'lie' then the honest thing would be for me to explain or apologize. until then i will remain some what baffled.
Well you lied a few post ago and have not responded to that, so the respect went out the window I would believe.
23 Jun 13
Originally posted by stellspalfieIf it is important to you, you'll find it. I'm personally tired of your games.
if i lied then im not aware. if you could do the decent think and politely remind me of my 'lie' then the honest thing would be for me to explain or apologize. until then i will remain some what baffled.
24 Jun 13
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieI looked in Strong's Concordance and it appears that the word "organisation" or "organization" is not used in the Holy Bible. So what other word might you be referring to?
I am asking you if God has a heavenly organisation? corporation is not my term, i have not introduced it, it is yours. So once again, does God have a heavenly organisation?
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24 Jun 13
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieI know I introduced "corporation" to the debate and you saw why. I introduced "organisation" too and I am very clear what I mean by it, but i am unsure you mean by it, so please clarify.
I am asking you if God has a heavenly organisation? corporation is not my term, i have not introduced it, it is yours. So once again, does God have a heavenly organisation?
To be clear when talk about your religious corporation as an organisation, I mean (among other things) a man made institution consisting of a laity, governing leadership who make the rules, regulations and doctrines, set prophetic ordinances and manage the finances.
24 Jun 13
Originally posted by divegeesterThread 153900
I know I introduced "corporation" to the debate and you saw why. I introduced "organisation" too and I am very clear what I mean by it, but i am unsure you mean by it, so please clarify.
To be clear when talk about your religious corporation as an organisation, I mean (among other things) a man made institution consisting of a laity, governing leader ...[text shortened]... make the rules, regulations and doctrines, set prophetic ordinances and manage the finances.
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24 Jun 13
Originally posted by galveston75no. you accused me of lying, which is quite a serious claim. the onus is on you to point out the lie. otherwise the nice thing to do would be apologize. you are also accusing my of playing games, which is something i also refute. so we have two accusations, can you back either of them up. at least when i throw mud (normally at your idiot friend) at least i have the decency to explain why.
If it is important to you, you'll find it. I'm personally tired of your games.