messianic prophecies

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
2. On what basis are you saying they never met Jesus?

The gospels were written decades after Jesus' lifetime.

Originally posted by FMF
The gospels were written decades after Jesus' lifetime.

Again,

1. How many of the messianic prophecy's did Matthew create? there were 37 given.
2. On what basis are you saying they never met Jesus?
3, You stated that its obvious, why is it obvious?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
because a normal birth is mundane and happens everyday and is not noteworthy, yah
think!😕 a virgin birth on the other hand is rather extraordinary, dont you think?

riding donkeys happens everyday. why not make it a magical flying donkey to spice things up?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
1. how many of the messianic prophecy's did Matthew create? there were 37 given.

It's moot. I am inclined to agree with earlier posts on this thread which argue that the messianic prophecies are mostly vague and unfulfilled, despite the spin applied by 1st C Christian authors.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
riding donkeys happens everyday. why not make it a magical flying donkey to spice things up?

coming into Jerusalem in Jehovahs name and being extolled as King doesn't happen
every day, another stupendous FAIL! and as was pointed out to you before, the
messiah would need to fulfil all of the prophecies therefore your vain and ludicrous
attempts to take them in isolation is what, you guessed it, another EPIC FAIL!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
3, You stated that its obvious, why is it obvious?

I've never heard any serious or credible suggestion that authors of the gospels were Jesus' contemporaries. They were 1st century Christians writing decades after Jesus' death creating literature for a fledgling religion.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
which proves nada!

it proves beyond any doubt that isaiah 7:14 is not talking about a virgin.

Originally posted by FMF
It's moot. I am inclined to agree with earlier posts on this thread which argue that the messianic prophecies are mostly vague and unfulfilled, despite the spin applied by 1st C Christian authors.

Once more

sorry i cannot hear you, how many did Matthew create?
On what basis are you saying that the gospel writers never met Jesus,
how is it obvious,

you have not said and you are not getting away with making unsubstantiated assertions
and fobbing them of as some kind of truths, they are not, they are at best, opinions
and hearsay, unsubstantiated and meaningless.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
...as was pointed out to you before, the messiah would need to fulfil all of the prophecies ...

And lo and behold the gospels claim exactly that and - lo and behold - you have one brand new independent breakaway religion.

Originally posted by VoidSpirit
it proves beyond any doubt that isaiah 7:14 is not talking about a virgin.

no its doesn't do anything of the sort, you will now explain why a normal birth is a sign,
for that is what you are saying.

Originally posted by FMF
And lo and behold the gospels claim exactly that and - lo and behold - you have one brand new independent breakaway religion.

more drivel. Your opinions while they may have some validity to you, remain that,
merely your opinions and as you cannot substantiate them are best relegated to the
realm of mere unsubstantiated opinion.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
On what basis are you saying that the gospel writers never met Jesus,
how is it obvious,

They were written by people who lived and wrote decades after Jesus' death.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
sorry i cannot hear you, how many did Matthew create?.

What does it matter how many "messianic prophecies" he worked into his writing when he was creating a new religion centred on Jesus being a "Messiah"? It's not a particularly difficult thing to do. There have been umpteen hundred thousand novels with more intricate plotting and internal references.

Originally posted by FMF
They were written by people who lived and wrote decades after Jesus' death.

you have no recourse to anything, your opinions are meaningless and as you have
failed to answer the questions put to you despite being asked four times, you have no
further part in this debate, because you cannot substantiate your assertions.

Originally posted by FMF
What does it matter how many "messianic prophecies" worked into his writing when he was creating a new religion centred on Jesus being a "Messiah"? It's not a particularly difficult thing to do. There have been umpteen hundred thousand novels with more intricate plotting and internal references.

you have FAILED to answer the question. How many did he create, you have asserted
that he created literature, how many of these did he create?