Michael the archangel revisited

Originally posted by Rajk999
Both God and his son Jesus are divine entities.

Does this mean you have two saviours?

Originally posted by divegeester
Does this mean you have two saviours?

Both God and his son Jesus are referred to as 'Saviour' in the Bible.

Originally posted by sonship
[b]That is unfortunately the same kind of faulty logic that trinitarians use to confuse God and Christ. God and Christ are separate and distinct entities.
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Unfortunately, you are still ignorant.

If Christ and God are "separate," then the Ap ...[text shortened]...

You occupy some kind of halfway house, not fully unbiblical yet not fully biblical either.[/b]

There is no such passage in the Bible as 1 John 1:20.

In any case 1 John 1:2-3 says"
(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us) That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. (1 John 1:2-3 KJV)

Notice the wording : ... FELLOWSHIP IS WITH THE FATHER AND WITH HIS SON JESUS CHRIST.

Sounds like two separate and distinct entities.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Both God and his son Jesus are referred to as 'Saviour' in the Bible.

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Originally posted by Rajk999
Both God and his son Jesus are referred to as 'Saviour' in the Bible.

In the OT Jehovah says through Isaiah many times that he is the only saviour and that he will not give his glory to another.

How do you reconcile that?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
sonship has publicly stated that he refuses to read my posts, what he is doing in my thread is known only to him.

Refuting your crap, is what he's doing. Maybe you should try reading it.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Robbie, why are you always going on about Jesus being the Archangel Michael?

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Because it's part of the man-made dogma of his church, made up by men with zero relation to actual scripture. They use their Bible, which was commissioned to specifically agree with their man-made-up dogma, to "verify" their dogma. Yeah, I know, circular reasoning at its best.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Gods unchangeable purpose was and still is for the earth to become a paradise and be populated with perfect humans, it has not changed since Eden and just how this Biblical fact has evaded you is in itself quite astonishing.

We have already proven that your 'mingling', is satanic for it was Satan himself who stated, 'you will become just like God', the very same doctrine that you yourself are now parroting.

More evidence that you do not understand scripture nearly as much as your mind thinks you do. This is what mangling the Word of God comes to.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Both God and his son Jesus are referred to as 'Saviour' in the Bible.

Well, there's a reason for that, and if you'd think about it, no, I mean actually think about it, then you'd probably be able to figure out why that is.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Gods unchangeable purpose was and still is for the earth to become a paradise and be populated with perfect humans, it has not changed since Eden and just how this Biblical fact has evaded you is in itself quite astonishing.

We have already proven that your 'mingling', is satanic for it was Satan himself who stated, 'you will become just like God', the very same doctrine that you yourself are now parroting.

Firstly, it's not "we", it's "you", and no, you haven't "proven" anything. "We" see your argument for what it is.

Originally posted by Rajk999
There is no such passage in the Bible as 1 John 1:20.

He meant to type 1 John 5:20. You can find that passage at 1 John 5:20, so there IS "such a passage". But you might know that, plus understand a bit more of scripture, if you ever read more than just "the red bits".

Originally posted by Rajk999
Both God and his son Jesus are referred to as 'Saviour' in the Bible.

That is because Yahshua (Jesus) is equal to God. His name means He is the Savior or really "I AM the Savior."

HalleluYaHshua ! Praise the LORD!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
(Jude 9) But when Michael the archangel had a difference with the Devil and was
disputing about Moses’ body, he did not dare to bring a judgement against him in
abusive terms, but said: “May Jehovah rebuke you.”

(1 Thessalonians 4:16) because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a
commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and wit ...[text shortened]... since his return to heaven where he resides
as the glorified spirit Son of God.

nuff said.

So if you see "him" in heaven, do you refer to him as Michael or Jesus?

Originally posted by divegeester
In the OT Jehovah says through Isaiah many times that he is the only saviour and that he will not give his glory to another.

How do you reconcile that?

Don't you get it yet? The one you call Jehovah (really Yahweh) is the God that was made flesh and dwelt among men and died on the cross as the Savior to all that will accept Him.

HalleluYah !!! Praise the LORD! Holy! Holy! Holy!

Originally posted by RJHinds, to Rajk999
That is because Yahshua (Jesus) is equal to God. His name means He is the Savior.

HalleluYaHshua ! Praise the LORD!

Oh, sure. Give him the cheat sheet.

I was waiting for him to figure it out himself. (Yeah, I know, I could grow old waiting for that one.)