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Michael the archangel revisited

Michael the archangel revisited

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
reincarnation? where is that concept in the scriptures? Hmmmm I wonder what bad thing divesgeester did to come back as a slug?
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist. (Matthew 17:11-13 KJV)

For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come. (Matthew 11:13-14 KJV)


The disciples understood that Elijah [Elias] was John the Baptist.
Christ is saying that John is Elijah.

The prophet Malachi also prophesied that Elijah will come before Christ.
In fact Elijah came as John the Baptist.
They were one and the same individual.

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kar·ma
ˈkärmə/
noun
noun: karma
(in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a person's actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future existences.
informal
destiny or fate, following as effect from cause.

Origin
from Sanskrit karman ‘action, effect, fate.’

There is no such doctrine taught in the Word of God. Reincarnation is not taught in the scriptures. Karma is a superstition believed by those with an excessive imagination and devoid of accurate truth. Especially of the Bible.

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The word "karma" also, of course, has a vernacular use where it simply means more or less 'what goes around comes around'.

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Originally posted by FMF
The word "karma" also, of course, has a vernacular use where it simply means more or less 'what goes around comes around'.
The "idea" of karma is simply based in the concept of reap and sow.

Do good, and good will come of it, but do bad, and it will come back to haunt you.

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The longer I'm in this forum the more I am amazed at what other Christians belive.

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Originally posted by josephw
The "idea" of karma is simply based in the concept of reap and sow.

Do good, and good will come of it, but do bad, and it will come back to haunt you.
Is not that concept of reap and sow in the Bible and stated clearly by several writers?

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Originally posted by divegeester
The longer I'm in this forum the more I am amazed at what other Christians belive.
Sounds llike an admission that you were previously very narrowminded

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Originally posted by Rajk999

The disciples understood that Elijah [Elias] was John the Baptist.
Christ is saying that John is Elijah.

The prophet Malachi also prophesied that Elijah will come before Christ.
In fact Elijah came as John the Baptist.
They were one and the same individual.[/b]
Wait, wait, now i'm confused.

The Archangel Michael was Jesus. Elijah was John the Baptist. So who was Barabbas again?

Lord Lucan?!?

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Originally posted by josephw
The "idea" of karma is simply based in the concept of reap and sow.

Do good, and good will come of it, but do bad, and it will come back to haunt you.
So maybe this broader meaning of "karma" is what the Christians are discussing here rather than the Hindu/Buddhist doctrine of reincarnation you mentioned in your previous post, yes?

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Originally posted by Rajk999
Sounds llike an admission that you were previously very narrowminded
Everyone here is narrow minded.

But no, it doesn't sound like that at all. What it spounds like is me saying I'm amazed at what other Christians believe.

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Originally posted by divegeester
The longer I'm in this forum the more I am amazed at what other Christians belive.
And I'm amazed by what they don't believe. 😉

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Wait, wait, now i'm confused.

The Archangel Michael was Jesus. Elijah was John the Baptist. So who was Barabbas again?

Lord Lucan?!?
No no no no!

Barabbas was Judas after he hung himself, after he kissed Jesus, after he found out that Jesus was Michael, who was the lover of John who didn't know what his sexual identity was till he met Mary the wife of Jesus who had children that will eventually over populate the world and there will be peace and joy and happiness for ever and ever. Amen

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Originally posted by divegeester
Everyone here is narrow minded.

But no, it doesn't sound like that at all. What it spounds like is me saying I'm amazed at what other Christians believe.
But Rajk can read your mind and knows what you really mean!

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Originally posted by FMF
So maybe this broader meaning of "karma" is what the Christians are discussing here rather than the Hindu/Buddhist doctrine of reincarnation you mentioned in your previous post, yes?
If that's what you think, and it makes you happy, then go for it.

But what I hear them saying is more in line with polytheistic thinking and dogma.

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Originally posted by divegeester
Everyone here is narrow minded.

But no, it doesn't sound like that at all. What it spounds like is me saying I'm amazed at what other Christians believe.
I guess everyone is narrowminded to varying degrees. However, Im pretty sure that I am the only Christian around here that has made the following statement which typically narrowminded Christians would cringe at

That there some people who do not know of God or Christ and yet they will be accepted into Gods Kingdom, like atheists who will be justified by works.

So while the Bible speaks of several types of justification, some Christians believe that only those who call out the name of Jesus Christ [ which they mistakenly refer to as 'faith], will be acceptable to God, and ignore the parts of the Bible which speak clearly of acceptable justification by works.

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