Originally posted by karoly aczelWhat would you think if i said cancer or HIV was a result of people being 'seperated from God'?
Yes , I have worked with the mentally ill.
I have immense respect for people whose beliefe systems are different from mine , (as long as those belief systems dont include physical coercion of any kind), I dont know why you would infer that.
I still dont see how saying that my definition of mental illness is being separate from "God" , is so offensive?
Originally posted by karoly aczelWhat do you mean then when you say that your definition of mental illness is 'separation from God'?
I didn't mean it like that.
Do you want me to apologize?
Mental illness, ie. clinical depression, schizophrenia, bi-polar disorder, are caused by irregularities in the brain in some shape or form and can be treated/managed with medication. Nothing to do with being separated from some imaginary 'God'.
Originally posted by Proper KnobThat was not his intent, he had his own definition that he was espousing, different from the orthodox view, although its not entirely clear what it was. You must remember this is a person who has had alien contact, he professes all sorts of unorthodox thinking.
What do you mean then when you say that your definition of mental illness is 'separation from God'?
Mental illness, ie. clinical depression, schizophrenia, bi-polar disorder, are caused by irregularities in the brain in some shape or form and can be treated/managed with medication. Nothing to do with being separated from some imaginary 'God'.
I will say it again....every mental illness on the face of the earth has its roots in spiritual retardation.
To be spiritually retarded is to not know who you are.....and that is most people.
Our true identity is spiritual, and not knowing this sets person up to become mentally ill........and most are.
A mentally challenged person does no know who they are.
To prove this I will ask the forum this question....
Who are you?
Lets see who knows who they are...........anyone willing to respond.?
No response means they are not sure or dont know......this should be interesting.
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To Karoly.
You should not apologize for presenting truth.
Your statement before about separation from God is very true, and stand firm in your truth.
Originally posted by DasaMy name is Robbie, I am a human being. Next question please.
I will say it again....every mental illness on the face of the earth has its roots in spiritual retardation.
To be spiritually retarded is to not know who you are.....and that is most people.
Our true identity is spiritual, and not knowing this sets person up to become mentally ill........and most are.
A mentally challenged person does no know who they ...[text shortened]... .
Your statement before about separation from God is very true, and stand firm in your truth.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieC'mon Dasa where is the next question, you put the challenge out. Are you going to shrink from enlightening us, exposing our falsehoods, reconciling us to God? or perhaps you are reaffirming our suspicions that you are unable to tell us anything and when pressed for guidance proffer excuses heaped upon excuses, that unless we accept your dogma, we shall remain in ignorance?
My name is Robbie, I am a human being. Next question please.
Originally posted by karoly aczelHey, don't worry about what people like Proper Knob and me think. You've got Dasa cheering for you now.... "...every mental illness on the face of the earth has its roots in spiritual retardation. Our true identity is spiritual, and not knowing this sets person up to become mentally ill........and most are." You blurted out your crass 18th century idea and Dasa is shoulder to shoulder with you: "You should not apologize for presenting truth. Your statement before about separation from God is very true, and stand firm in your truth." Don't worry about whether you're offensive or not, you've found common cause with Dasa on this one.
I still dont see how saying that my definition of mental illness is being separate from "God" , is so offensive?
Originally posted by DasaI am FMF. Father of two. Busy, happy, purposeful, rarely bored, I would describe my approach to life as thoughtful, spiritual, positive. I certainly do not feel '...there must be more to life than this..." and I do not leap from that to "...I am going to live forever". I believe there is a God. I can't prove It exists. I feel no need to. It hasn't communicated with me. It hasn't issued me with any 'instructions'. I don't believe It has issued anyone else with 'instructions' either. I have no idea what happens after death. All evidence points to it being the end. So that is my assumption. I leave speculation about it to others. Because I have no interest in, or use for, religion. I feel no onus on me to 'spread' any 'word' about anything to anyone or to replace anyone else's beliefs with my own. I am a meat eater. I am a theist.
To prove this I will ask the forum this question....
Who are you?
Lets see who knows who they are...........anyone willing to respond.?
Originally posted by DasaI am currently eating an omellette, made with onion, red cabbage, green pepper, brocolli, sweetcorn, 4 eggs and a dash of whole milk.
I will say it again....every mental illness on the face of the earth has its roots in spiritual retardation.
To be spiritually retarded is to not know who you are.....and that is most people.
Our true identity is spiritual, and not knowing this sets person up to become mentally ill........and most are.
A mentally challenged person does no know who they ...[text shortened]... .
Your statement before about separation from God is very true, and stand firm in your truth.
I am a Homo sapien from the planet Earth. Third rock from the Sun in the fringes of the Milky Way galaxy. I am inconsequential in the big scheme of things a mere blip in the universes history, except to family and close friends, to them i am unspeakably precious (or so i like to think).
Originally posted by DasaOkay, so explain to me how bi-polar disorder, which is a serious mental illness, is caused by separation from God.
I will say it again....every mental illness on the face of the earth has its roots in spiritual retardation.
To be spiritually retarded is to not know who you are.....and that is most people.
Our true identity is spiritual, and not knowing this sets person up to become mentally ill........and most are.
A mentally challenged person does no know who they ...[text shortened]... .
Your statement before about separation from God is very true, and stand firm in your truth.
I'm all ears.
"You cannot sit on a cushion and go within and discover God.."God's in a cushion?
Why not a pillow?
Why would God want to sit under an arse instead of under a head?
It all sounds a little anal.
Or perhaps you can't find God in a cushion, because you're not elastic enough to both sit on your arse and look under your arse at the same time.
In a cushion? Why????
Originally posted by DasaQuote: "Who are you?"
I will say it again....every mental illness on the face of the earth has its roots in spiritual retardation.
To be spiritually retarded is to not know who you are.....and that is most people.
Our true identity is spiritual, and not knowing this sets person up to become mentally ill........and most are.
A mentally challenged person does no know who they ...[text shortened]... .
Your statement before about separation from God is very true, and stand firm in your truth.
I am it and you are it and he is it and she is it and that is that.
Originally posted by FMFYou have told me what you do........but have not told me who you are.
I am FMF. Father of two. Busy, happy, purposeful, rarely bored, I would describe my approach to life as thoughtful, spiritual, positive. I certainly do not feel '...there must be more to life than this..." and I do not leap from that to "...I am going to live forever". I believe there is a God. I can't prove It exists. I feel no need to. It hasn't communicated w ...[text shortened]... to replace anyone else's beliefs with my own. I am a meat eater. I am a theist.
Have another go please.