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Originally posted by Proper Knob
What do you mean then when you say that your definition of mental illness is 'separation from God'?

Mental illness, ie. clinical depression, schizophrenia, bi-polar disorder, are caused by irregularities in the brain in some shape or form and can be treated/managed with medication. Nothing to do with being separated from some imaginary 'God'.

Yep, that's why I said it was my definition.
With my defintion the words are more loosely defined.

BTW i have been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia for about 8 years.

Originally posted by Dasa
I will say it again....every mental illness on the face of the earth has its roots in spiritual retardation.

To be spiritually retarded is to not know who you are.....and that is most people.

Our true identity is spiritual, and not knowing this sets person up to become mentally ill........and most are.

A mentally challenged person does no know who they ...[text shortened]... .

Your statement before about separation from God is very true, and stand firm in your truth.

We are not using the words properly. I know that, but it is my way to present my take on "mental illness". I am sorry if I offended anyone. T'was not my intention.

Originally posted by FMF
Hey, don't worry about what people like Proper Knob and me think. You've got Dasa cheering for you now.... "...every mental illness on the face of the earth has its roots in spiritual retardation. Our true identity is spiritual, and not knowing this sets person up to become mentally ill........and most are." You blurted out your crass 18th century idea and Dasa about whether you're offensive or not, you've found common cause with Dasa on this one.

Dasa: I stand shoulder to shoulder with you on your view of this FMF situation. He repeatedly insists things which are clearly not true about me, oh (this is to you, dear FMF, let me change), you repeatedly insist things about me which are clearly not true. You have not responded to one postivive comment I've offered the forum (maybe with a few exceptions, but no examples readily come to hand), rather you have sought to justify your own words and origonal critiques of me. You have been waiting for me to slip up. And now I have slipped, and you can pounce. Well done.

Dasa: That message was going to be for you, but I realized I was responding to FMF so I am sorry to have turned it around mid paragraph.
I am quite pleased at the patience you have shown with dealing with this FMF character.

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Dasa: I stand shoulder to shoulder with you on your view of this FMF situation. He repeatedly insists things which are clearly not true about me, oh (this is to you, dear FMF, let me change), you repeatedly insist things about me which are clearly not true. You have not responded to one postivive comment I've offered the forum (maybe with a few exceptio ...[text shortened]... raph.
I am quite pleased at the patience you have shown with dealing with this FMF character.

my goodness, FMF in his attempts to reach out to Dasa has demonstrated the patience of a Saint, it would not surprise me in the slightest were he canonised by the morrow!

Originally posted by shavixmir
God's in a cushion?
Why not a pillow?
Why would God want to sit under an arse instead of under a head?
It all sounds a little anal.

Or perhaps you can't find God in a cushion, because you're not elastic enough to both sit on your arse and look under your arse at the same time.

In a cushion? Why????

Unless you are joking (I hope your joking), the cushion is just a meditation aid.
There is no god, but a funny little blue "turtle guy" on the inside of your mind. He'll tell you whats what.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
my goodness, FMF in his attempts to reach out to Dasa has demonstrated the patience of a Saint, it would not surprise me in the slightest were he canonised by the morrow!

What? take off his glove and "reach out" to lightly slap Dasa?

Originally posted by FMF
It's somewhat sad, really, that after 10 months on a relatively benign and welcoming forum like this, he neither commands the goodwill or respect, nor projects sufficient intellectual credibility to interact with anyone in the way he seeks to interact now (on this thread). I wonder why he is planning to wait 2 months more. Posting on this forum and paying for a ...[text shortened]... I've got 2 months of posting left' seems to be a vanity thing, as divegeester has suggested.

Agreed (with the last part in particular)

Originally posted by FMF
It's somewhat sad, really, that after 10 months on a relatively benign and welcoming forum like this, he neither commands the goodwill or respect, nor projects sufficient intellectual credibility to interact with anyone in the way he seeks to interact now (on this thread). I wonder why he is planning to wait 2 months more. Posting on this forum and paying for a I've got 2 months of posting left' seems to be a vanity thing, as divegeester has suggested.

10 months he's stayed
Yet for 12 months he's paid
Hence 2 more remain
and his course won't be stayed

Blindly peddling his 'truth'
He's forsaken his youth
His zeal does not wane
he fights nail and tooth

Twice he's called truce
After a storm of abuse
Some suggest he's insane
whilst others...obtuse!

Vilified the most
He's a pestilent ghost
and inspite of no gain
He'll continue to post

Originally posted by Agerg
10 months he's stayed
Yet for 12 months he's paid
Hence 2 more remain
and his course won't be stayed

Blindly peddling his 'truth'
He's forsaken his youth
His zeal does not wane
he fights nail and tooth

Twice he's called truce
After a storm of abuse
Some suggest he's insane
whilst others...obtuse!

Vilified the most
He's a pestilent ghost
and inspite of no gain
He'll continue to post

Bravo!! LMFAO

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Dasa: I stand shoulder to shoulder with you on your view of this FMF situation. [...] I am quite pleased at the patience you have shown with dealing with this FMF character.

Which part of his constant stream of abuse and insult did you interpret as being 'patience'?

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Yep, that's why I said it was my definition.
With my defintion the words are more loosely defined.

BTW i have been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia for about 8 years.

Okay, so how in your view is your schizophrenia 'separation from God'?

Originally posted by Agerg
10 months he's stayed
Yet for 12 months he's paid
Hence 2 more remain
and his course won't be stayed

Blindly peddling his 'truth'
He's forsaken his youth
His zeal does not wane
he fights nail and tooth

Twice he's called truce
After a storm of abuse
Some suggest he's insane
whilst others...obtuse!

Vilified the most
He's a pestilent ghost
and inspite of no gain
He'll continue to post

Ode to Agers

Agers oh Agers,
these spiritual slackers
doth science to disdain
and then lay the blame
with outrageous acclaim
that ol Darwin was insane
and had much to gain
from preposterous claim
that from a monkey we came
Agers oh Agers what shall we do
spank them all soundly with the end of a shoe
send them to bed without any supper
and give them a good hiding with a cut to the upper
afterwards drinking tea from our favourite cuppa
Agers oh Agers had they but known
some aptitude for equations clearly have shown
that from their fate they may have been saved
instead of in prison with head all shaved
but this is the end of my story and tale
the moral please do not bewail
if ever you find yourself in a spot,
be sure to lay your hand upon your bot
it will bring you back to reality
instead of arguing with theists on the pc

Originally posted by Dasa
There is more to the statement "separation from God is the cause of mental illness"................ that's just ambiguous , standing by itself.

It means that without spiritual consciousness, the consciousness is rooted in the mundane, and the mundane does not inform us of our true identity and the understanding of who we are and what is life.

Take this ...[text shortened]... generalized her but I am sure you get the point.....and the point is all that matters.....

I don't get the point.

Some forms of mental illness are caused by chemical imbalances in the brain, correct those and the person is fine. I don't see how being separated from God causes those imbalances, it's a material problem.

Secondly, if separation from God is the root of the problem in your eyes, it should follow that if a person reconnects themself to God the mental illness should disappear. How would reconnecting to God and adopting the spiritual life readjust the chemical imbalances in a persons brain?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Ode to Agers

Agers oh Agers,
these spiritual slackers
doth science to disdain
and then lay the blame
with outrageous acclaim
that ol Darwin was insane
and had much to gain
from preposterous claim
that from a monkey we came
Agers oh Agers what shall we do
spank them all soundly with the end of a shoe
send them to bed without any supper ...[text shortened]... hand upon your bot
it will bring you back to reality
instead of arguing with theists on the pc

On a purely poetic perspective, not bad...not bad at all! ;]

Originally posted by Agerg
On a purely poetic perspective, not bad...not bad at all! ;]

I knew a great connoisseur of poetry like yourself would appreciate its rhythmic tones dear Agers!