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Originally posted by @kellyjay
You'll be judged as you judge, and you do a lot of judging.
The Bible says we should judge those who claim to know Christ.

Those who don't we should not judge. The idea that grace abounds the more we sin is not Biblical.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Yes, you?
Why do you think the killing of "innocent [human] life" is morally wrong?

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Originally posted by @eladar
The Bible says we should judge those who claim to know Christ.

Those who don't we should not judge. The idea that grace abounds the more we sin is not Biblical.
The scripture says a lot of things, some you even get right.

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Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
Why do you think the killing of "innocent [human] life" is morally wrong?
Killing an innocent needs explained to you? Seriously, you are asking that?

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
The scripture says a lot of things, some you even get right.
Yes it does, but if one goes to one extreme or the other one ends up with Satanic beliefs.

The key is knowing debatable matters vs God's truth. To treat all subjects as debatable matters is Satanic.

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Originally posted by @eladar
Yes it does, but if one goes to one extreme or the other one ends up with Satanic beliefs.

The key is knowing debatable matters vs God's truth. To treat all subjects as debatable matters is Satanic.
You give Satan to much power, he doesn't need help. People can screw up loving one
another without demonic activity.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Killing an innocent needs explained to you? Seriously, you are asking that?
Yes. I don't think many people feel that embryo's are "guilty" of anything, yet many do feel it is not morally wrong to kill them or allow them to perish. So it is not obvious that "innocence," in and of itself, is sufficient to warrant intervention in order to protect it.

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Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
Yes. I don't think many people feel that embryo's are "guilty" of anything, yet many do feel it is not morally wrong to kill them or allow them to perish. So it is not obvious that "innocence," in and of itself, is sufficient to warrant intervention in order to protect it.
How many sperm died the last time you jerked off?

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400 million

You monster!

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Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
Yes. I don't think many people feel that embryo's are "guilty" of anything, yet many do feel it is not morally wrong to kill them or allow them to perish. So it is not obvious that "innocence," in and of itself, is sufficient to warrant intervention in order to protect it.
Life is either important or not, if it is than in all stages it is. The beginning of a life may not
be something you can see and hold, but without it, nothing else will develop. So unless
you want to invalidate a human life for cause, than let the causes begin to be named. We
have seen people belittled for color, nationality, age, and a number of other things. Are
you an outsight out of mind guy, if you cannot see him or her, they are not important?

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Life is either important or not, if it is than in all stages it is. The beginning of a life may not
be something you can see and hold, but without it, nothing else will develop. So unless
you want to invalidate a human life for cause, than let the causes begin to be named. We
have seen people belittled for color, nationality, age, and a number of other things. Are
you an outsight out of mind guy, if you cannot see him or her, they are not important?
Yes kelly. Let's populate the earth till the balance point tips and we all starve to death while we sit in our own filth. Glory God, right? He didn't give us brains so that we could figure out when we are being stupid.

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Originally posted by @apathist
Yes kelly. Let's populate the earth till the balance point tips and we all starve to death while we sit in our own filth. Glory God, right? He didn't give us brains so that we could figure out when we are being stupid.
So you want to kill off some to avoid others from dying?
Picking and choosing are you!
Why not kill off the poor, and elderly using your logic?
If someone cannot produce for the good of the whole, lets make Soylent Green!

I can tell you don't think life has its own meaning in its own right, I do.
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Sperm and eggs ain't kids. Fertilized eggs are children either.

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Originally posted by @apathist
Sperm and eggs ain't kids. Fertilized eggs are children either.
Sperm by itself will never, neither eggs, but fertilized eggs can be the process has started.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Life is either important or not, if it is than in all stages it is. The beginning of a life may not
be something you can see and hold, but without it, nothing else will develop. So unless
you want to invalidate a human life for cause, than let the causes begin to be named. We
have seen people belittled for color, nationality, age, and a number of other ...[text shortened]... ngs. Are
you an outsight out of mind guy, if you cannot see him or her, they are not important?
You aren't answering the question of why you think killing embryo's is wrong, you are just restating your position. Why do you think killing an embryo is wrong? Is it just an axiom of your moral compass that killing "innocent" human life is always wrong?

What is your view of Numbers 5:11 onward with respect to this issue?

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