New work on why some people are gay:

Originally posted by SwissGambit
Where did you learn such a dirty term? 😲

I was not always a Christian my friend, indeed I did not become one until I was twenty
three, prior to that I was a pagan, I mean pagan/occultism 😵

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
She loves me and is not degraded by having to engage in oral or anal sex.

So she feels no guilt at having to do those things is what I read into it but she does it anyway.

Originally posted by sonhouse
So she feels no guilt at having to do those things is what I read into it but she does it anyway.

she does not engage in those practices which I personally view as degrading to
women. I have made our position rather clear, providing scientific reference and
Biblical reference, but feel free to assign imaginary values in place of empirical
evidence, you people give the scientific method a bad name.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have already told you that i cannot explain my position with regard to the law and
homosexuality as a capital punishment any better than i have already, three or four
times and far form ignoring it I attempted to address it on numerous occasions, my
word making no progress with you.

Your inability to subject my assertions to falsificati ...[text shortened]... an is rather
telling. The matter is rather clear in my mind an I am thankful for the guidance.

Don't worry about the homosexuality bit. Just explain to me how the Watchtower can advocate the use of capital punishment for murder based on the precedent of Mosaic Law.

Surely you can do that?

Originally posted by Rank outsider
Don't worry about the homosexuality bit. Just explain to me how the Watchtower can advocate the use of capital punishment for murder based on the precedent of Mosaic Law.

Surely you can do that?

no sorry i cannot, i have tried and failed, you need to draw your own conclusions. As
far as i am aware, our position is that capital punishment for murder is a matter for the
secular governments.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have made our position rather clear, providing scientific reference and
Biblical reference, but feel free to assign imaginary values in place of empirical
evidence, you people give the scientific method a bad name.

When you claim you made your position on oral sex clear and provided scientific reference and Biblical reference, you are surely not referring to your clumsy, self-contradicting, waffle about "porneia"?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no sorry i cannot, i have tried and failed, you need to draw your own conclusions. As
far as i am aware, our position is that capital punishment for murder is a matter for the
secular governments.

Ok, let's leave it at that. I actually think you can advocate something but at the same time leave it to secular governments to decide. So in that sense I don't think there is a contradiction.

Originally posted by Rank outsider
Ok, let's leave it at that.

You have established the selective endorsement of the death penalty as yet another clear case of cherry picking by the JW HQ. It will be referred back to in future, I am sure, because it is their contention that they never cherry pick.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
she does not engage in those practices which I personally view as degrading to
women. I have made our position rather clear, providing scientific reference and
Biblical reference, but feel free to assign imaginary values in place of empirical
evidence, you people give the scientific method a bad name.

did you think it was degrading before you were a christian?

in what way do you think it is degrading?

Originally posted by stellspalfie
did you think it was degrading before you were a christian?

in what way do you think it is degrading?

plueeeze dude, demonstrate some decorum.

Originally posted by Rank outsider
Ok, let's leave it at that. I actually think you can advocate something but at the same time leave it to secular governments to decide. So in that sense I don't think there is a contradiction.

ok

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
plueeeze dude, demonstrate some decorum.

decorum? do you find it difficult or embarrassing to talk about sexual matters? or is because you know you are on dodgy ground?

Originally posted by stellspalfie
decorum? do you find it difficult or embarrassing to talk about sexual matters? or is because you know you are on dodgy ground?

find it difficult? have you read through this thread? after doing so, how anyone can
come to the conclusion that i have found it difficult is quite ludicrous? I am simply not
prepared to discuss endless questions which hold no interest or have relevance to me.
I have detailed my position with reference, it is enough.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
find it difficult? have you read through this thread? after doing so, how anyone can
come to the conclusion that i have found it difficult is quite ludicrous? I am simply not
prepared to discuss endless questions which hold no interest or have relevance to me.
I have detailed my position with reference, it is enough.

dodgy ground then. fair enough.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
she does not engage in those practices which I personally view as degrading to
women. I have made our position rather clear, providing scientific reference and
Biblical reference, but feel free to assign imaginary values in place of empirical
evidence, you people give the scientific method a bad name.

It's funny, I saw some TV show about sex and they were interviewing people in NYC and the interviewer asked some women about anal and one of them got very excited and said "I love it, love it, love it, LOVE IT" unquote!