Spirituality
19 Jan 14
28 Jan 14
Originally posted by sonshipwhat part of it? because i agree that proverbs are pretty profound.
You have no idea how profound a writing the Bible is.
You only seem to see curiosities on the surface as unbelievable novelties.
I may give you an example from the account of Noah's ark, latter.
how about the part about condemning a little girl to be stoned to death if she can't prove she is a virgin?
how about the part about cutting off a woman's hand if she defends her husband or father by grabbing their attacker by the schlong?
how about the genocide the israelites conducted in the conquest of canaan as depicted in the bible?
how about punishing till the seventh generation the transgression of one man?
how about the fun way humanity will end, as portrayed in revelations?
how about that one time where god made a bet with satan and as a result all of job's daughters, sons and servants died. for the bet. for something god already knew but had to prove to the satan or whoever it was?
are these parts profound as well?
or just plain sick?
28 Jan 14
Originally posted by lemon limehttp://www.digitaljournal.com/img/1/5/1/7/7/5/i/4/3/9/o/Crocoduck.jpg
forgive me...
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http://www.digitaljournal.com/img/1/5/1/7/7/5/i/4/3/9/o/Crocoduck.jpg
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http://redecky.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/wallpapers_pepe-le-pew_04_1024.jpg
people who use this retarded jpg have no idea whatsoever how evolution works. they attempt to ridicule evolutionists who never claimed a crocoduck existed at any point, nor does the theory allow that to exist. there are countless transitional fossils between reptiles and birds, none of which have the tail of a crocodile and the head of a duck.
28 Jan 14
Originally posted by lemon limeEdit: By the way, scale models of Noahs ark have been built
This is hilarious, atheists still using their own comic book version of the Noahs ark story. Have you forgotten how many land animals today are the result of speciation, or do you believe that any argument from incredulity* is able to carry you to victory?
There are childrens picture books, those designed for 4 and 5 year olds, showing el ...[text shortened]... 2/3 thirds, so that would also factor into making the boat very stable and virtually untippable.
link damnit. you can't claim whatever the fuk goes through that pumpkin of yours you call a head without at least some kind of proof.
here let me show you how it is done:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
and one about evolution.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-misconceptions.html#observe
28 Jan 14
Originally posted by ZahlanziIn drawings is the only way evilution works.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/img/1/5/1/7/7/5/i/4/3/9/o/Crocoduck.jpg
people who use this retarded jpg have no idea whatsoever how evolution works. they attempt to ridicule evolutionists who never claimed a crocoduck existed at any point, nor does the theory allow that to exist. there are countless transitional fossils between reptiles and birds, none of which have the tail of a crocodile and the head of a duck.
28 Jan 14
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Originally posted by menace71I know we've discussed this before but no human alive today knows what the earth looked like before the flood. Most high mountains have sea shell fossils on them which means at one time they were underwater.
In defense of the flood it (The Bible) is also said that water came from inside or underneath the earth not just from the sky. However these questions of where did all the water come from and where did it go are very legit
Manny
The Bible explains this when it says "before there was dry land, the earth was covered with water".
So at one time there was plenty of water on the planet to do so. None of that water has ever left this planet and is all still here.
So once all the springs opened on God's command and the water canopy that was above the earth began to fall as rain, there was more then enough water to cover the planet.
Once this huge amount of weight was now on the surface of the planet, this weight would have made the thinner places of the crust or plates sink, and in turn many areas would have been pushed up as mountains we have now with those sea fossils on them.
28 Jan 14
Originally posted by galveston75I would not think that Noah's ark needs to be pointed. But that seems to be the way the one that was found appears from the photos. However, there may be some reason that I don't know. Until someone finds another candidate for Noah's ark, this is the best we have.
Just food for thought...but these all say the ark had a pointed front end or even both ends were pointed.
Why the need for that in this design? Was it powered by a motor, or sails? Or was it to be just a floating ark designed by God to preserve life?
Is a pointed eneded design more stable then a square ended design? Did god say in the description to Noah to build it with pointed ends?
29 Jan 14
Originally posted by RJHindsWell remember what the ark was designed for. It was only to float and not to be steard in some direction. And if one were to study the design God told Noah to build instead of a single or double ended design that the bibles account does not support, one would find the differances in the stability factors.
I would not think that Noah's ark needs to be pointed. But that seems to be the way the one that was found appears from the photos. However, there may be some reason that I don't know. Until someone finds another candidate for Noah's ark, this is the best we have.
29 Jan 14
Originally posted by galveston75I can't say for sure. I was thinking a squared boat shape might not turn with the waves as easily and make it less stable. It seems that all boats are designed with the slanted or pointed ends. Also some hugh rocks with a hole in each one was found in the area and was speculated to be anchors that was probably attached to the ark to help with stablization.
Well remember what the ark was designed for. It was only to float and not to be steard in some direction. And if one were to study the design God told Noah to build instead of a single or double ended design that the bibles account does not support, one would find the differances in the stability factors.
29 Jan 14
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Originally posted by RJHindsWhy would a object designed to float need pointed ends? Was there a rudder to steer with? No. Also no where in God's descriptions to Noah were there any mention by God to steer it or go to some destination.
I can't say for sure. I was thinking a squared boat shape might not turn with the waves as easily and make it less stable. It seems that all boats are designed with the slanted or pointed ends. Also some hugh rocks with a hole in each one was found in the area and was speculated to be anchors that was probably attached to the ark to help with stablization.
The Hebrew word for ark used in the event with Noah is the same word used with Moses "tevath" which in Moses's case was a basket which of course would not be made to steer but to protect life..
29 Jan 14
"Noah’s Ark was the focus of a major 1993 scientific study headed by Dr. Seon Hong at the world-class ship research center KRISO, based in Daejeon, South Korea. Dr. Hong’s team compared twelve hulls of different proportions to discover which design was most practical. No hull shape was found to significantly outperform the 4,300-year-old biblical design. In fact, the Ark’s careful balance is easily lost if the proportions are modified, rendering the vessel either unstable, prone to fracture, or dangerously uncomfortable.
The research team found that the proportions of Noah’s Ark carefully balanced the conflicting demands of stability (resistance to capsizing), comfort (“seakeeping&rdquo😉, and strength. In fact, the Ark has the same proportions as a modern cargo ship.
The study also confirmed that the Ark could handle waves as high as 100 ft (30 m). Dr. Hong is now director general of the facility and claims “life came from the sea,” obviously not the words of a creationist on a mission to promote the worldwide Flood. Endorsing the seaworthiness of Noah’s Ark obviously did not damage Dr. Hong’s credibility".
29 Jan 14
Originally posted by galveston75But who knows what shape that basket was?
Why would a object designed to float need pointed ends? Was there a rudder to steer with? No. Also no where in God's descriptions to Noah were there any mention by God to steer it or go to some destination.
The Hebrew word for ark used in the event with Noah is the same word used with Moses "tevath" which in Moses's case was a basket which of course would not be made to steer but to protect life..
29 Jan 14
Originally posted by galveston75Maybe so. Who knows.
"Noah’s Ark was the focus of a major 1993 scientific study headed by Dr. Seon Hong at the world-class ship research center KRISO, based in Daejeon, South Korea. Dr. Hong’s team compared twelve hulls of different proportions to discover which design was most practical. No hull shape was found to significantly outperform the 4,300-year-old biblical design. ...[text shortened]... ood. Endorsing the seaworthiness of Noah’s Ark obviously did not damage Dr. Hong’s credibility".
29 Jan 14
Originally posted by galveston75Wood is not the best material for shipbuilding. It is not enough that a ship be built to hold together; it must also be sturdy enough that the changing stresses don't open gaps in its hull. Wood is simply not strong enough to prevent separation between the joints, especially in the heavy seas that the Ark would have encountered. The longest wooden ships in modern seas are about 300 feet, and these require reinforcing with iron straps and leak so badly they must be constantly pumped. The ark was 450 feet long [ Gen. 6:15].
"Noah’s Ark was the focus of a major 1993 scientific study headed by Dr. Seon Hong at the world-class ship research center KRISO, based in Daejeon, South Korea. Dr. Hong’s team compared twelve hulls of different proportions to discover which design was most practical. No hull shape was found to significantly outperform the 4,300-year-old biblical design. ...[text shortened]... ood. Endorsing the seaworthiness of Noah’s Ark obviously did not damage Dr. Hong’s credibility".
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html#building