Noah's Ark Found

Originally posted by galveston75
Not saying it didn't but why would the ark need anchors? None were mentioned in the bible....

Why is there no evidence of a flood in tree ring dating? Tree ring records go back more than 10,000 years, with no evidence of a catastrophe during that time.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
But he never and you fail AGAIN

I am now beginning to have some sympathy for you Zips which is a dangerous thing for a man in my position.

Many plants (seeds and all) would be killed by being submerged for a few months. This is especially true if they were soaked in salt water. Some mangroves, coconuts, and other coastal species have seed which could be expected to survive the Flood itself, but what of the rest?


Noah could not have gathered seeds for all plants because not all plants produce seeds, and a variety of plant seeds can't survive a year before germinating.

Also, how did he distribute them all over the world?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
there is a small replica of the ark built exactly according to the Biblical dimensions in the Glasgow Museum of Transport in the shipping section, it won an award, the plaque underneath it reads, The Ark, built by Jehovah, scaled up its higher than a four storey building, larger than a soccer field and is rectangular in dimensions.

Why is there no mention of the Flood in the records of Egyptian or Mesopotamian civilizations which existed at the time?

Biblical dates (I Kings 6:1, Gal 3:17, various generation lengths given in Genesis) place the Flood 1300 years before Solomon began the first temple. We can construct reliable chronologies for near Eastern history, particularly for Egypt, from many kinds of records from the literate cultures in the near East. These records are independent of, but supported by, dating methods such as dendrochronology and carbon-14. The building of the first temple can be dated to 950 B.C. +/- some small delta, placing the Flood around 2250 B.C. Unfortunately, the Egyptians (among others) have written records dating well back before 2250 B.C. (the Great Pyramid, for example dates to the 26th century B.C., 300 years before the Biblical date for the Flood). No sign in Egyptian inscriptions of this global flood around 2250 B.C.

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
Wood is not the best material for shipbuilding. It is not enough that a ship be built to hold together; it must also be sturdy enough that the changing stresses don't open gaps in its hull. Wood is simply not strong enough to prevent separation between the joints, especially in the heavy seas that the Ark would have encountered. The longest wooden ships in ...[text shortened]... was 450 feet long [ Gen. 6:15].

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html#building

The ark that was found does have metal supports in that bottom part. You apparently did not pay close enough attention to the videos.

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
how did noah clean the manure from all the animals?

Sorry for the delay. Been sick and not feeling too good. Blah!!!

Anyway the Bible is not clear on that as well as many other questions we all have. How did enough food, water, etc get stored? How did they put up wih the stink?
If you remember this was God's event and he did make it work. When his son Jesus was on earth he fed hundreds with a few loaf's of bread and a little wine.

Originally posted by RJHinds
The ark that was found does have metal supports in that bottom part. You apparently did not pay close enough attention to the videos.

the biggest wooden ships in existence have to be reinforced and leak so badly they have to be constantly pumped. noah and his merry men were busy 24/7 feeding the animals and they didn't have the technology to pump anyway.

these ships were 300ft. noah's was 450.

you apparently didn't pay close enough attention to what i said.

Originally posted by galveston75
Sorry for the delay. Been sick and not feeling too good. Blah!!!

Anyway the Bible is not clear on that as well as many other questions we all have. How did enough food, water, etc get stored? How did they put up wih the stink?
If you remember this was God's event and he did make it work. When his son Jesus was on earth he fed hundreds with a few loaf's of bread and a little wine.

so you abuse science when it suits you. when you are too bored with science, and can't be bothered to even make up stuff, you use "god did it by miracle"?


can't you be consistent?

Originally posted by galveston75
Well actually we do know by what he bible says in Genesis. No mention at all of a keel being laid first as in the construction of a ship that would have a power source such as an engine or sail that we normally see in a ship with a pointed end.
No mention of any steering system. No mention at all of Noah steering with any navagational assistance, and ...[text shortened]... hat the bible is very clear on and not be influanced by Hollywood or all the opinions out there.

The Holy bible does not give all the details of the ark. There is no blueprint provided so we can see the shape. We are only given the length, width, height, number of levels, a type of wood as the main construction material, windows and a door, with pitch to seal it.

There is no mention that Noah had any help from his sons or anyone else in constructing it. But it is obvious that he could not contruct it by himself. Many times the Holy Bible does not give complete information and leaves scholars speculating. This is just another example, like the Shroud of Turin and the Sudarium of Oviedo.

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
the biggest wooden ships in existence have to be reinforced and leak so badly they have to be constantly pumped. noah and his merry men were busy 24/7 feeding the animals and they didn't have the technology to pump anyway.

these ships were 300ft. noah's was 450.

you apparently didn't pay close enough attention to what i said.

Yes I did pay close attention to what you said, and I am saying you are wrong. Are you paying attention to that?

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
how did noah clean the manure from all the animals?

That is one of the details not provided that leaves you and the scholars speculating and God laughing.

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
Why is there no evidence of a flood in tree ring dating? Tree ring records go back more than 10,000 years, with no evidence of a catastrophe during that time.

Tree rings are cause by wet and dry periods. There was no tree rings found in the wood of that boat leaving many to believe it was not wood at first. The reason is explained in the Holy Bible. God had not caused it to rain before the flood of Noah's day. Read it yourself and discover how all plants were watered.

This idea of annual tree rings is a myth. There can be several rings created in a single year. It all depends on the weather.

Originally posted by RJHinds
The Holy bible does not give all the details of the ark. There is no blueprint provided so we can see the shape. We are only given the length, width, height, number of levels, a type of wood as the main construction material, windows and a door, with pitch to seal it.

There is no mention that Noah had any help from his sons or anyone else in constructing ...[text shortened]... speculating. This is just another example, like the Shroud of Turin and the Sudarium of Oviedo.

No it doesn't, I never said there was. But common sense can tell by the simple description that is was designed by God to float, not go on some merry trip propelled by some magical engine, oars or sails you seem to think existed on it and because of that it needed a bow? Right. Why can't you ever just take the word of the Bible exactly for what it says even on something as easy as this and turn it in to some mysterious ship looking boat that had some place it had to go during the flood?
Still trying to manuver thru the Bible on your own as usual.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Tree rings are cause by wet and dry periods. There was no tree rings found in the wood of that boat leaving many to believe it was not wood at first. The reason is explained in the Holy Bible. God had not caused it to rain before the flood of Noah's day. Read it yourself and discover how all plants were watered.

This idea of annual tree rings is a myth. There can be several rings created in a single year. It all depends on the weather.

This idea of annual tree rings is a myth.

that is accounted for, o ignorant one. which you would have known had you read at least the wiki page. a ring grown in a drought year is not the same as your "several rings in a single year". a tree dating back several thousand years would have to had narrow rings and wide rings, unless you claim it rained heavily every year since noah

Originally posted by galveston75
No it doesn't, I never said there was. But common sense can tell by the simple description that is was designed by God to float, not go on some merry trip propelled by some magical engine, oars or sails you seem to think existed on it and because of that it needed a bow? Right. Why can't you ever just take the word of the Bible exactly for what it says e ...[text shortened]... e it had to go during the flood?
Still trying to manuver thru the Bible on your own as usual.

whose common sense?

common sense of normal people would make one dismiss this as a retarded idea.

your "common sense"?

Originally posted by RJHinds
That is one of the details not provided that leaves you and the scholars speculating and God laughing.

oh, normal people are laughing too. at you. and god is probably also laughing at how idiots can't think for themselves.