NT acceptance of homosexuality

Originally posted by @js357
Yes, and he was telling them to stay within Roman law, and then he deleted the Jewish death penalty for man on man penetration. It was fine to shun any miscreants from the Jewish community, but they couldn’t go around killing people without government oversight.

The audience was being told to back off on the death penalty, since Romans 13 put a cap on pena ...[text shortened]... ly to “due penalties” which recognized the cap. It certainly did not set itself above Roman law.

Yes you are in the right thought here. But the question is, when it came to following mans laws like the Romans who accepted this as the norm somewhat, which is in contrast to God's long standing laws and principles such as not allowing homosexuals to live or to even accept them into ones beliefs or homes, how should a Christian view this today? If it's accepted even by the masses and most of the churches, what should a Christian's stand be?

Originally posted by @galveston75
...how should a Christian view [homosexuals] today? If it's accepted even by the masses and most of the churches, what should a Christian's stand be?

I think you should try to love them, as your neighbours [or even as your enemies], like you love yourself; I think you should not be judgemental ~ and, instead, tell yourself that your god figure will know what to do. As a real-life manifestation of this Christian love, I think you should perhaps oppose any secular efforts by governments to discriminate against homosexuals. I think that would be a good stand for a Christian to take.

Originally posted by @fmf
I think you should try to love them, as your neighbours [or even as your enemies], like you love yourself; I think you should not be judgemental ~ and, instead, tell yourself that your god figure will know what to do. As a real-life manifestation of this Christian love, I think you should perhaps oppose any secular efforts by governments to discriminate against homosexuals. I think that would be a good stand for a Christian to take.

Yes, embrace sin. This is the advice of a dead man.

Originally posted by @eladar
Yes, embrace sin. This is the advice of a dead man.

I thought what I suggested was well in line with Christain principles. It's odd to hear you refer to Jesus as a "dead man". That's not what I've come to expect Christians to say.

Originally posted by @fmf
I thought what I suggested was well in line with Christain principles. It's odd to hear you refer to Jesus as a "dead man". That's not what I've come to expect Christians to say.

You are in line with Christians like Suzi. You are the dead man, not Jesus.

Originally posted by @eladar
You are in line with Christians like Suzi. You are the dead man, not Jesus.

I am very much alive. So are you and Suzianne. Jesus, on the other hand, was executed by the Romans around 2,000 years ago.

Originally posted by @fmf
I am very much alive. So are you and Suzianne. Jesus, on the other hand, was executed by the Romans around 2,000 years ago.

I am sure you think you are.

Originally posted by @fmf
I think you should try to love them, as your neighbours [or even as your enemies], like you love yourself; I think you should not be judgemental ~ and, instead, tell yourself that your god figure will know what to do. As a real-life manifestation of this Christian love, I think you should perhaps oppose any secular efforts by governments to discriminate against homosexuals. I think that would be a good stand for a Christian to take.

According to the bible and following the examples set by Jesus ( I'm assuming that this is an acceptable guideline? ) yes we are to love our neighbors as ourselves. But what does this exactly mean?
How about the "good Samaritan" story? Did the one helping the person in need ask him questions first? Did he interrogate him as to his sexual preference? No of course not. This person was in dire need of help and the Samaritan was there to do just that.
This is showing love just as we hope someone else would show to us.
But how far do we go with this caring or even becoming friends? If this person in need were in fact a person that was going against God's laws or guidelines on any number of things regardless of the country or location that may somehow allow persons such as a thief, an adulterer, etc, etc, to mingle with the general population without marking them as such, where does one draw the line on associating with ones like this?
According to the Bible and Jesus's examples one would not go beyond showing a neighborly love to that person if they were truly in need of help.
If one happened to work with such a person on a regular basis, a Christian would never be rude, downgrading or mean to that person just as Jesus was not. But did he associate with them just to be associating? No scriptures in the bible showed that Jesus never did that if that person still practiced that sin in their life.

Originally posted by @fmf
I am very much alive. So are you and Suzianne. Jesus, on the other hand, was executed by the Romans around 2,000 years ago.

Yes he was for 3 days but he is still alive in heaven after he was resurrected by his Father....

Originally posted by @galveston75
Yes he was for 3 days but he is still alive in heaven after he was resurrected by his Father....

I don't think this is true. But if believing it gives you a sense of purpose, good for you.

Originally posted by @galveston75
According to the bible and following the examples set by Jesus ( I'm assuming that this is an acceptable guideline? ) yes we are to love our neighbors as ourselves. But what does this exactly mean?
How about the "good Samaritan" story? Did the one helping the person in need ask him questions first? Did he interrogate him as to his sexual preference? ...[text shortened]... he bible showed that Jesus never did that if that person still practiced that sin in their life.

is there some spiritual threat to you, do you think, if you have friends who are homosexual?

Originally posted by @fmf
is there some spiritual threat to you, do you think, if you have friends who are homosexual?

Are you unaware that Jehovah's words in the Bible forbid the association with anyone that "practices" sin? Do I need to show you his commands on this? Do I need to show you the scriptures that show the removal of such ones from the early congregations?

Remember that "bad associations spoil useful habits" ?

Originally posted by @galveston75
Are you unaware that Jehovah's words in the Bible forbid the association with anyone that "practices" sin? Do I need to show you his commands on this? Do I need to show you the scriptures that show the removal of such ones from the early congregations?

Remember that "bad associations spoil useful habits" ?

So what consequences could there be for you if you had friends who were homosexuals? Be specific if you can. What would or could the consequences for you be? I am not asking about "commands".

Originally posted by @fmf
I don't think this is true. But if believing it gives you a sense of purpose, good for you.

Well..it is true. And it gives me no such thing as "a purpose" as you think for some reason, but it's very reassuring to know that he is alive, walked as a man and died as one which makes me more sure that since he did experience life here on earth and knows what it is like first hand to suffer as most humans do, that the promises that the bible says that soon he will sit beside his Father and cleanse the earth of all wickedness, sickness, death, etc and ones who do not accept him and his father as being real and actually hinder his Kingdom and his followers from being happy.

Originally posted by @fmf
So what consequences could there be for you if you had friends who were homosexuals? Be specific if you can. What would or could the consequences for you be? I am not asking about "commands".

Lol. You know very well what hey are.